I’m sure those of you continually offended by political references in the world of sports will rise up to condemn Chris McDaniel, seeking any attention he can get as he runs for a US Senate seat a second time, who evidently objects to Ole Miss replacing Colonel Reb with a new mascot.
Fergit, hayul!
Gotta say that is the dumbest looking mascot I’ve ever seen. It looks like the GEICO Gecko with teeth.
LikeLiked by 1 person
The land shark looks like he lost a frying pan fight with a Florida football player.
LikeLike
My personal fave is that idiotic thing they created for the Olympics in Atlanta. A totally meaningless mass of matter that just reeked of being designed by a committee.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Google “Izzy”. It was awful.
LikeLike
It was the most impressive smurf colored walking sperm I’ve ever witnessed.
LikeLike
I sick of historical negationism and the people that think tearing down historical monuments will change anything.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I sick of historical negationism and the people that think tearing down historical monuments will change
anythingmy mind.FIFY.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I hate to burden you with such an horrific memory but for purposes of our discussion maybe you should share the hurt you felt about HISTORY on this day: https://youtu.be/hWxszYK6IPU
LikeLiked by 1 person
We don’t seem to value history anymore. Even if it is history that wasn’t favorable or good, lessons can be learned from it. But only if we don’t erase it from our culture. It’s almost like some believe the U.S. scrubbing Vietnam from the history books and tearing down all the memorials would mean we never lost a war. It would not change that fact but WOULD make us more likely to repeat the same mistakes. I really don’t get it.
LikeLike
The problem is that people don’t understand their own history.
Had those monuments been built before Appomattox then your argument might have weight.
The truth is that the monuments to confederate generals were built decades AFTER the war as a symbol of white dominance and supremacy. We have a historically accurate monument to that period in our history. It’s the National Memorial for Peace and Justice, also known as the National Lynching Memorial. During the same period that statues to honor those who took up arms against your country were put on display, at least 4,300 people of African descent were publically murdered for offenses ranging from writing a note to a white woman to leaving a job site without permission to educating sharecroppers about their civil rights.
A statue to honor General Lee built in 1914 is NOT historically significant as to the war. It is a mere symbol of the resistance to its effects.
If you want to honor 100 plus years of resistance to treating black people as human beings, do it on your own time.
LikeLiked by 1 person
You rekon they should tear down this one? All the m’fer did was burn a path from Atlanta to Savannah.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_William_Tecumseh_Sherman_Monument&ved=2ahUKEwj8rpfzlercAhXEnOAKHap1DmsQFjABegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1i_vIJH2M6GObzWHA9J0fk
LikeLike
War is hell.
I feel the same way about that as I do Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You probably shouldn’t have started it and once you did maybe you should have quit a bit sooner.
LikeLike
Comparing the March to the Sea with Hiroshima/Nagasaki? LMFAO. Thanks. You really are a hoot. I still have not figured out if you are the Senator’s paid troll or the actually the Senator himself. Either way, you make for good entertainment.
LikeLike
You thought about using your English language skills to describe how these are incomparable circumstances. Why didn’t you explain? Are you incapable?
I’m LMFAO at your rhetorical impotence.
LikeLike
You come up with an asinine comparison and expect me somewhat justify it with debate? I might as well argue with some of these flat-earth idiots while I am at it. Actually, I think those guys are a bit smarter than you.
LikeLike
Once again your language skills fail you.
Hiroshima and the March to the Sea are NOT comparable consequences to engaging in a war and then not timely surrendering because….
I’ll add a third: the bombing of Dresden.
These things all line up in a pretty straight line for me. Why not for you?
If it’s so obvious you should be able to explain. Given your flat earth analogy which is like saying: comparing Pol Pot to Hitler is akin to alchemy, I think it’s a problem of capacity.
LikeLike
Yeah. The nazis really should have quit after Dresden. The Japanese should have quit after the first firebombing of Tokyo.
I get to spend lots of time around Frankfurt, and the towns around it. You won’t find statues of any nazi war heroes or even German soldiers that died fighting. What you will find on an unassuming street corner in Wiesbaden is a retaining wall where each block has the name, date of birth, date of death, and the camp where someone from Wiesbaden were murdered. Cowdog jr and I happened upon it and while knocking around the town last year. We did a rough count of the blocks and came up with 25000. I d
LikeLike
And why would you suspect that is the case?
LikeLike
What? Give away my tells? No chance…..
LikeLike
Well, the Senator did tell Derek to kiss his ass just last week…
LikeLike
A brilliant maneuver meant to fool the readership. The Senator is part Tevye, part Moses, part Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, and part Keyser Soze, with a dash of Guy Fowlkes. He is nowhere. He is everywhere. The Faceless Men of Bravos ain’t got nothin’ on him.
LikeLike
He’s never seen you and Derek together at the same time.
LikeLike
Neither have I.
LikeLike
Regardless of when the monument was built he was still an important historical figure. So I suppose you also disapprove of the George Patten monument built some 64 years after the war since it is NOT historically significant as to the war?
Being a bit of an amateur history buff I have seen many historical sites, monuments, and displays. I’ve rarely if ever known the motivation behind them, beyond their historical significance, and really only find that relevant to current circumstances.
LikeLike
The timing is only one element of explaining the objection. The objection is to the nature of the political and sociological message conveyed by the construction of the statue.
If the Nation of Islam commissioned a statue to Nat Turner as a symbol of black supremacy and white inferiority/evil would you object?
How would you feel if you lived in a town where the city center was adorned with that message?
As far as I’m aware there is no suggestion in the timing or other circumstances that the Patton statue was a tribute to any immoral ideology.
LikeLike
If you haven’t studied why a monument was erected you’re missing out on a glimpse into the social psyche of that society at the time it was built. That’s the whole problem behind the vast majority of confederate monuments. They were built by white people to remind African Americans of their place in society and to glorify their white ancestors who fought to preserve “states rights” (what everyone who yells about that seems to forget is the whole sentence should be, “a state’s right to maintain the practice of slavery).
LikeLike
Not at all. Monuments couldn’t be built immediately after the Civil War. The southern states were impoverished by the war as well as Reconstruction policies. They were also under political supervision of the conquering army.
It took decades for the south to rebuild its economy to the point that erecting statues was possible. And the people who built them were the children and grandchildren of the men being honored. And that’s understandable.
Yes, states rights were important to secession. But only the first wave of secession was directly attributable to slavery. States seceding later were responding to the war initiated by the Union. If Lincoln allows the first wave of secession to proceed peacefully, half the Confederacy may not have seceded, slavery in the CSA would have ended due to mechanization in the later nineteenth century, and a million people wouldn’t have died.
LikeLike
Why would it have come to anyone’s minds to build confederate monuments in 1866? You think it was simply a matter of funding? That had the cash been there the Germans would have built a statue honoring Rommel in 1946?
The children and grandchildren of Germany built how many “understandable” monuments to their war dead?
LikeLike
Yes. It would obviously be stupid to immediately build monuments. Just as it is stupid to claim that building them decades later makes them about a nefarious secret meaning, rather than what they are plainly about. But I’m not the doofus arguing the latter point.
LikeLike
Secret? Damn you are fucking stupid. Lost cause ideology was not secret you idiot.
The only people who want it to be secret are of your ilk. Too bad they wrote shit down.
LikeLike
So, your argument is that a statue of Lee is a clear statement of white supremacy designed to keep blacks in line. The whites could make these public and unambiguous statements because they were in power at the time.
So, why not just erect a sign? Wouldn’t signs be cheaper and clearer? Were the grandchildren of confederate veterans playing five dimensional chess that was meant to only be clear to uneducated blacks and you?
LikeLike
The crux of my argument is that you are a moron.
Read anything and I mean ANYTHING on Lost Cause ideology and you’ll understand that the statue is the sign.
I’m sure you’re wondering why La Liberté Guidant le Peuple by Eugène Delacroix is a painting instead of a book because you’re stupid.
LikeLike
I’ve read Lost Cause history. But it’s not the pervasive bogeyman you believe in. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a statue honoring war dead is just that.
But it is amusing to see your mental gymnastics identifying the secret messages that aren’t really secret, yet aren’t explicit either. They’re everywhere! Lost Cause! Lost Cause! REEEE!
LikeLike
I don’t agree slavery would have died with mechanization. It would only mean slaves could produce more. And if Lincoln had allowed a little secession it would have all been ok?
Hanh. That’s bullshit
LikeLike
Slavery was established because of economic incentives. Mechanization removes those incentives. And eleven countries in the Western hemisphere alone ended the practice of slavery without war. But American children are brainwashed into thinking that war was the only answer. Now, if the ultimate goal of Lincoln was to end slavery in American states and territories no later than 1865, then the war was necessary. But of course, that wasn’t his goal. His goal was to prevent southern states from seceding. Whether they seceded over slavery, or taxes, or an overreaching general government was immaterial. They just couldn’t be allowed to embrace the concept of decentralized self-government over a single, centralized, national government dictating uniform policy to diverse populations. That was why Lincoln needed war.
LikeLike
You don’t have to worry about it. General Lee was against transgender rights and inter-species marriage. So obviously he is much too offensive to our progressive sensibilities to be allowed to exist in history.
The same goes for any white man born before 1950. But we’ll get to the other dudes eventually.
LikeLike
I agree. I also believe we should remove Lincoln’s statue in DC. His proposition of the Corwin Amendment, the exemption of certain territories in the official Emancipation and his desire to remove African Americans & send them to Liberia are some of the main reasons. In my opinion, we should remove anything honoring slaveholders and racists from that era.
LikeLike
No one here is arguing that Gen. Lee statues should be taken down because Gen. Lee was a bad person or even because he fought for a bad cause. The issue is that the statues were put up decades after the war to promote an ideology of white supremacy. Every one of those monuments is a monument to that ideology. The person represented is not particularly relevant and wasn’t when they were constructed.
This is not about WHO deserves a statute. It’s a discussion about WHAT political ideology deserves to be revered.
If you think that white supremacy needs a place of honor and respect on the city square then say so.
LikeLike
The Lincoln Memorial was finished in 1922. The country was deeply racist at that time. White supremacy wasn’t controversial, or even disputed. So let’s break out the pickaxes, shall we?
LikeLike
So your point is that the purpose of the Lincoln Memorial was to promote racial superiority?
Not sure the date of construction establishes that. A person with a function cerebrum would look deeper.
LikeLike
I’m not claiming to be a psychic specializing in the motivations of statues. That’s you. I’m simply applying your own “logic” to other monuments. The Lincoln Memorial was built during a time of much racial prejudice. According to you, that’s important.
LikeLike
I’m really not shocked that you’re incapable of considering multiple factors in problem solving. I’m frankly shocked that you have enough brain power to keep yourself breathing.
LikeLike
Go ahead and describe your “logic” that leads you to believe that some statues are evil and some statues are virtuous. I need a laugh.
LikeLike
*functioning
LikeLike
Derek thinks the most accurate monument is about lynching. The memorial estimates over 4,300 victims of lynching. The American Civil War cost at least 650,000 lives in military deaths. More can be added to the starvation and disease in civilian populations attributable to the war. But most of those casualties were white, so who cares, amirite?
LikeLike
This paragraph contains the ramblings of a mad man.
LikeLike
Here you go Derek.
LikeLike
Let’s have one monument. To cancer. Because numbers.
LikeLike
Cancer kills white people, so … no.
LikeLike
As I said. Ramblings. Mad man. You’re a nutter.
LikeLike
When someone like you dismisses my posts, it’s high praise indeed. I am truly thankful that my statements aren’t stupid enough for you to appreciate them.
LikeLike
Maybe you could explain that to all the folks who insist the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.
LikeLike
ding ding ding
LikeLike
You had me until there, Bluto. You’re a lawyer, not a historian. And you shouldn’t play one on the internet.
The war was about preserving the union. Full stop. Lincoln stated as much many times. Just because our middle school teachers insist differently doesn’t mean they know more about the Civil War than the men who fought it.
LikeLike
Lincoln fought the war to preserve the Union, but if the southern states hadn’t seceded, there wouldn’t have been a need to go to war, would there?
LikeLike
Come on, man. Lincoln had no choice other than war? Not even he would claim that.
LikeLike
Didn’t you just comment “The war was about preserving the union. Full stop. Lincoln stated as much many times.”?
The southern states seceded because of slavery. If they hadn’t, there would have been no Civil War. I’m not really sure what you’re arguing about here.
LikeLike
I’m arguing that it was possible for Lincoln to simply let the southern states secede. No war. No death and destruction. It’s a radical idea, but it was certainly possible.
If Lincoln allowed the first wave of secession to happen peacefully, there would likely have been no second wave of secession. And obviously there would have been no war.
You’re glossing over these facts. Since South Carolina seceded over slavery, and then some other stuff happened and a million people died, the war was about slavery. That’s like arguing that World War I happened because of Archduke Ferdinand. Yes, he was the first domino. But that led to many other decisions. And most of the people and countries involved in the war didn’t give a damn about him.
LikeLike
Look, I’m really not interest in rehashing the cause of the CW. I respect that you see it differently, but there’s way too much history leading up to secession, as well as similar declarations from the states that went out with South Carolina for me to see it the way you do.
And contrary to another suggestion of yours, there was plenty of racial animus to go around in the Reconstruction Era. And enough money to erect this tribute to that attitude.
LikeLike
The actual history is nuanced. The Civil War = slavery narrative is nothing more than moral cover akin to the Middle East = terrorism narrative that modern day politicians are shilling.
First wave states seceded because of slavery. Lincoln and much of the north wanted to preserve the Union, so they announced they would muster troops and send them south. Second wave states didn’t want to commit troops to quell secession, so they seceded as well. Individual soldiers rarely cared about slavery or abolition as to why they were fighting.
The only reason to believe that the war had to happen is if you believe in Manifest Destiny that the USA can only grow bigger and never smaller. That the citizens of Virginia were justified in declaring independence from a state they viewed as oppressive in 1776, but unjustified in the exact same actions in 1861.
And the monument you mentioned was built 26 years after the end of the war.
LikeLike
Remind me, why was the Union in need of preservation?
LikeLike
Because some of the states believed the general government no longer represented their interests. They believed in the idea of self-government. So they declared their independence.
LikeLike
Re-read the Gettysburg Address. I think you missed something.
LikeLike
FIFY.
LikeLike
How were blacks and women represented in the north again?
It’s seriously tiresome when otherwise intelligent people fall prey to the South = racist and North = saints notion of nineteenth century American history.
LikeLike
The abolitionist movement began in upstate New York. That’s just fact. You can suggest that you put a can put slave owner on par with an abolitionist morally if you’d like. Good people both sides and whatnot.
I’m sort of sick of the whataboutism and moral relativism and both siderism.
Why the fuck does it have to be about your feelings anyway?
You think you’re more burdened by guilt by association than than the burden that must be felt by any African American who walks through the lynching memorial?
You’re a FOS moron and moral midget. Try humanity someday.
LikeLike
Nobody gives a shit what you’re tired of, Derek. And why does it have done about your feelings? The way you start shutting in your hand and throwing it at people when they post something you don’t like it agree automakers you about the last person with any credibility on that score.
LikeLike
When I made my statement about otherwise intelligent people, I obviously wasn’t referring to you. I’m not surprised at all that you’re idiotic enough to believe South = racist and North = saints. What surprises me is that Bluto has signed off on the notion.
And I’m not talking about feelings. I’m talking about facts. The fact is, abolitionists were not confined to New York, or even to the northern states. Another fact is that many people in northern states, including Lincoln, weren’t abolitionists. Lincoln’s position on slavery was fluid, political, and downright Clintonian. He was for it before he was against it. He was against it over here but not over there.
So get your head out of your ass and read something beyond a seventh grade level. Try some primary sources. One day, if you work really hard, you might be able to sustain a mature opinion.
LikeLike
I must have missed the point where I labeled anyone a saint.
But carry on…
LikeLike
Mike I take my civility cues from you. You’re always very accommodating of views with which you disagree. Always.
Still wondering why the fucking babies who can’t stand a verbal whipping voted for trump. I think the truth is people like you love assholes as long as you agree with them. If not, you bitch about tone. Sad!
LikeLike
Believe it or not, it is not only possible, but rational, to think that the Lost Cause narrative is complete horseshit and that the North was plenty racist on its own.
LikeLike
So your belief was that the North may have been slightly less racist than the South, yet that small moral distinction was worth killing a million people and destroying untold amounts of property? Curious.
LikeLike
No no. Those in power believed in preserving the status quo that insured them wealth. It only applied to whitey cause it was he what held the power
LikeLike
It is amazing, how Napoleon has twisted so many loops and knots to show his points. Most of them I have not heard since my relatives died. and yes Manifest Destiny had a lot to do with the war-both sides wanted to expand.
LikeLike
There are good arguments on both sides of that point.
LikeLike
Not really… unless you mean that in the Donald Trump/Charlottesville sense.
LikeLike
No I mean if you actually read the state of South Carolina’s, Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union. I would say their point has proven true. The Federal government now meddles in basically anything it wants to contrary to what the constitution actually says and was understood to be for the first 100 years of our existence.
LikeLike
Opposing slavery = meddling. Cool.
LikeLike
Do you believe that growing hay on your own land for your own use is not interstate commerce and the federal government has no authority over the practice? Well you probably wish slavery had never been abolished!1!!1!
LikeLike
Whatever happened to economic substantive due process?
LikeLike
It’s a quaint relic of an era before the New Deal and Civil War established that the government does what it wants and fuck you if you don’t like it.
LikeLike
Look at the bright side. You can still be discriminated against for being an idiot. MLK’s dream lives!
LikeLike
Hell, you can be discriminated against for any reason whatsoever. Lincoln’s dream lives on!
LikeLike
It is amazing, how Napoleon has twisted so many loops and knots to show his points. Most of them I have not heard since my relatives died. and yes Manifest Destiny had a lot to do with the war-both sides wanted to expand.
LikeLike
Tearing down monuments (and re-naming streets and such) has been going on for a while and isn’t that big a deal. Though the latest round is done with gusto and glee that bespeaks vindictiveness.
However, Ole Miss probably had to do a lot, up to and including that mock-worthy land shark.
And, as usual, our moral judge Schtick Dreck chimes in with a mediocre inapplicable analogy. Saddam put up that statue to himself.
LikeLike
Truly pathetic.
So you’re saying that if Lee commssioned a statue during his life, then tear it the fuck down. If the Daughters of the Confederacy commissioned one in 1923 as part of its Lost Cause/white supremacy ideology then its history.
That’s beyond stupid.
LikeLike
No, that’s what you’re saying. I said what I said. I do not deign to be questioned by you. Yawn.
LikeLike
I know you’d prefer a world where your dumb goes unchallenged because you wouldn’t have to confront that fact as a reality, but the way to do that is think it but not type it.
That way you can always be right in your head which is the only space you’ll ever have any chance.
Your objections notwithstanding the idea that the Saddam statue is less legit as a historical monument because he built it is indefensible by logic. He was in charge of Iraq from 1969 to 2003. He is a significant historical figure. But that shit needed to be torn down too. “History” does not save glorifications.
LikeLike
Would think that the Confederate Museum in Fitzgerald would welcome new additions and people could visit at their leisure. No fear of desecration as well if they are in one spot and the Klan could rally there since it is sparsely populated and … … .
LikeLike
Is this what you are blabbering about?
https://www.fitzgeraldga.org/blue-and-gray-museum.html
Man, the last thing I want to do is get into one of these stupid Confedercy apologists arguments, but you should educate yourself before you spout off disparaging an entire town. Fitzgerald had a unique founding, here’s a little background ( I know, it’s Wiki, but you can get a general idea):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzgerald,_Georgia
LikeLike
First, the suggestion for placement of monuments in Fitzgerald was a serious suggestion of what to do with the monuments taken down and I also remarked that some storage places remain secret (specifically in NO) for fear of desecration. Second, I appreciate your factual update to the nonfactual part of my post. It has been years since I visited Fitzgerald and it wasn’t for the Museum which has been described to me by a DAR in-law as a “Confederate Museum” that was visited last year. My bad and your rebuke is well taken. That in-law complained about the statues of Confederate heroes being taken down across the South and I suggested then that they should consider placing them in Fitzgerald at the Museum that had been described as Confederate (guess they ignored the “Blue Tour”).
Rather than leave it there, I have to say that my experience with those who respect monuments to the civil war mostly are not of the ilk of race baiters and idiots who use them as symbols of white supremacy. People who trace their family lineage to and beyond the Civil War aren’t about to forget relatives who fought proudly and honorably for either side, but in today’s world that family pride for bravery under fire and loss of life has the additional twist of supposed modern days racial hatred by those relatives of Confederate soldiers. I view the racial hatred thoughts that many attribute to Confederate history buffs and descendants of Confederacy soldiers as specious.
My conflicted feelings are that the symbols that are seized upon by haters should be removed, but placed in museums that can give perspective to their existence. Their presence in public society has used up their usefulness in a part of the country that wished to remember their ancestors with respect while, at the same time, served as a touchstone for racial haters to continue to try to intimidate a minority and that can be twisted to include modern day descendants who don’t feel that way at all about their statuary.
Segregation embodied the paternalistic and racial hatred feelings of the past, not statues. I confronted and got over desegregation when I was 13 (1953) in Sowega. I certainly can get over rearranging statues in this modern age.
LikeLike
Lincoln did not conquer the confederacy. He called off his dogs and Robert E Lee was smart enough to know when to quit. The United States never recognized the confederacy as legit.
LikeLike
The land shark moniker became popular during the regime of Hugh Freeze – right? One lost cause symbol to another.
LikeLike
When Silent Sam, a Confederate soldier monument on UNC’s campus, was erected in 1911, Julian Carr (local big wig) bragged about how he grabbed a “negro wench” who didn’t properly respect a white woman walking down the street, tied her to a tree, and “horse-whipped her until her skirts hung in shreds.” He added, “The purest strain of the Anglo-Saxon is to be found in the 13 Southern States, Praise God.”
Hang that sign from Silent Sam and Johnny Reb, and I’m good if people want to keep them.
LikeLike
Agreed ASEF. IMO I think these statues should stand in the same way as Dachau and Auschwitz stand–as memorials to injustice and cruelty, not lost causes. Put a plaque in front of them explaining the racism behind their construction so that we don’t forget the true history of these monuments.
LikeLike
Symbols mean different things to different people. Some people identify Confederate symbols with racism and slavery. Some people identify them with people defending their homes against an invading army. Do we hold a vote to tell the latter that they’re wrong and must now subscribe to the former idea?
Some people identify George Washington as a great military mind, political leader, and the father of his country. Others identify him as a racist slave owner. Do we scrub him off the dollar bill? Or do we stamp over the bill “RACIST” so that he’s not respected too much?
LikeLike
That horse left the barn some time ago.
As conservative Georgia legislator Bobby Franklin once wrote, ”allowing hate groups and white supremacists to hijack the Confederate battle flag and pervert it into a negative symbol without publicly and repeatedly repudiating them has been a grievous moral failure.”
LikeLike
Fair enough. Just do the rest of us a favor and let us know which symbols have been irreparably hijacked by others. Thoughtcrime is a serious offense.
LikeLike
I don’t believe that’s really a hard question, do you? Know them by the company they keep.
LikeLike
Well, it’s something the right thinking people impose upon others. You’re obviously one of the right thinking people, so we need you to detail what the Toughtcrimes are.
Have the Black Gangster Disciple Nation spoiled the Star of David? Or can other people claim that they view it in a more traditional and less violent sense? Some groups use numbers, like 13, for hateful meanings. Should we expunge these numbers from popular usage? If the number 13 is taboo, does the term “baker’s dozen” follow? Inquiring minds want to know.
LikeLike
I think your thoughts and actions will be judged in marketplace of ideas. That’s just how it works. Sorry in advance.
LikeLike
Marketplace is fine. We’re talking about Thoughtcrime here. What is, and is not, allowed? Sales of Confederate flags lag well behind sales of U.S. flags. I’m cool with that. I’m not cool with being told that Confederate flags can only mean that the owner supports slavery and that any other interpretation will be dismissed as not progressive enough.
LikeLike
Lol. We can’t add plaques explaining the original historical intent because the meanings have changed too much,
but we can’t take them down because they honor a history” *which must be preserved. Sorry, you can’t have it both ways. I mean, I get it, it would be nice for you if you could be solely in charge of their meanings but then you would be operating in the very “politically correct” space you claim to loathe wouldn’t you?
LikeLike
Not at all. What I loathe is applying modern political correctness to history. Arguing that we should tear down a statue of Lee, yet leave a statue of Lincoln because of racism is nonsensical. They were both racists. In fact, 99% of the people born before 1950 were racists. So if we’re going to start tearing down statues on that basis, we need to get cracking because there’s a lot to tear down.
And of course, once we establish the precedent that historical figures will be judged by modern standards, it will only continue. Should the Obama monuments be destroyed because he wasn’t supportive of inter-species marriage? I suppose 22nd century progressives will decide.
LikeLike
i hope This line of thinking is extended to the 26 states and countless cities named after Indians and we rename all the states and we stop calling those army helicopters Apaches…
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Connecticut
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Massachusetts
Minnesota
mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
New Mexico
Ohio
Oklahoma
North Dakota
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Wisconsin
Wyoming
LikeLike
Why would anyone be concerned about using the names the native Americans used for places? That you can’t distinguish between the “Chattahoochee River” and “Chief Noc-A-Homa” is an embarrassment to all multi-celled creatures.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Posts like this are like “Jerry Springer’s Final Thoughts”. Great moral lesson makes you forget about the broken chairs and hairballs onstage.
LikeLike
I’m glad that someone finally recognizes that Admiral Ackbar is the true and rightful Ole Miss mascot
LikeLiked by 1 person
He is the perfect mascot. It’s no trap.
LikeLike
Close our eyes, click our heels, it never happened.
LikeLike
These GOP guys are such snowflakes.
LikeLike
Jim McElwain approves of this mascot.
LikeLike
Why not return to being an all-white college and see how that works out.
LikeLike
In Mississippi, wouldn’t the PC thing to do be to keep Col Reb?
LikeLike
That’s different!!!
At one time it was politically correct in the south to scream the N-word for without a clear demonstration of your racist bona fides, you might lose the race.
LikeLike
Marvin Griffin, former Ga Gov who ran for reelection and lost, attributed his loss to being “outni****** ” by his opponent. He also stated that “Someone ate my BBQ and didn’t vote for me.”. I was one of them.
LikeLike
George Wallace said the same or similar after he lost as a moderate in the late 50’s: “Ain’t nobody ever gonna out-ni***r me again.”
LikeLike
And Easy-E treated N**** like it was a f’n disease.
LikeLike
It was time for Reb to retire for sure. Way past time. The fucking over the top virtue signaling is just at an epic level on here. At least it is entertaining.
LikeLike
LikeLike
Don’t be naive that should SPCA or PETA loons start barking (pun intended) UGA political correctness/liberals will be demanding that the bulldog mascot be replaced with some unisex minion type character. Somewhat surprised that demands for a UGA bitch, ala Albert and Alberta gator, haven’t been more vocal. Would make for a perfect McGarityism.
LikeLike
Dude. C’mon.
LikeLike
I don’t know, Senator…would anyone have imagined ten years ago how far we’d be dragged down the PC road? I realize some of it is good, but a lot of it is crazy…I’m to the point that pretty much nothing surprises me or even seems out of the realm of possibilities. But as long as Washington is allowed to hang on to “Huskies”, we should be fairly safe.
LikeLike
Huskies is very offensive to almost obese humans. This needs to be changed immediately.
LikeLike
They’ve sorta been there. Said we should replace the cruelly bred bulldog with an animatronic model. Like the sheep in ‘Babe’.
LikeLike
We should get rid of ideas because some of them are bad.
LikeLike
Considering Josiah Meigs’s grandbaby Montgomery punked General Lee out of Arlinington to humiliate him, anybody associated with UGA need not worry about yanking down statues decades after the fact to prove their fervor, lol. We finished that drill before it was cool.
LikeLike
You finished that still before it was cool? What are you in the eighth grade? Does your moma know you are commenting here while you’re in class?
LikeLike
Presentism
LikeLike
and yes, tell that turd in Mississippi to “shut up and demagogue”!
LikeLike
It’s always great when people from up north of out West move to the south and act shocked that it isn’t like the place they left.
LikeLike