“Drag his ass across the field!”

Man, Sally Jenkins brings the righteous indignation today.

Heatstroke didn’t kill Jordan McNair, the berserk excesses of coach DJ Durkin and his staff did. No amount of “honoring” McNair can pretty up that fact. The investigation into what Maryland did wrong after McNair collapsed is misplaced. It’s what came first — the deranged college coaching mentality that drove McNair to the staggering point — that requires full inquiry, and no one should be allowed to forget it.

An NFL player hasn’t died from heat exertion in 17 years. That’s the full measure of the crude, knuckle-dragging stupidity at work here. You know how many kids NCAA football coaches have killed with conditioning drills in that same period? Twenty-seven. I say “kill,” because that’s what it is, when tyrants force captive young men to run themselves to death, out of their own outdated fears of weakness. Why is the NCAA tolerating this kill rate, which is unmatched at any other level of football?

Now there’s a question I’d love to hear someone ask Mark “The NCAA is all about the student-athlete” Emmert.

Sadly, in this case, it isn’t about the money.  Virginia monitors its players body temperatures by means of a technology that costs $60,000 a year — a shitload less than you can expect Maryland’s gonna pay out to McNair’s family.  Nor is it particularly exotic.

Virginia put the system in use earlier this month when the Cavaliers started fall camp. The technology itself is about 20 years old, Pugh said. In fact, she used it when she did her thesis for her Master’s degree at Florida 16 years ago.

Good grief.

No, this is about a peculiar mindset unique to college athletics.

Since 2000, there have been 40 athlete fatalities in conditioning sessions in multiple sports across the NCAA, yet not a single death on the field, according to Casa. This despite the fact that schools have all the education and tools to prevent it: Heatstroke exertion is 100-percent survivable with a thermometer and some ice. The NFL has eliminated it altogether and to its credit continues to consult with the Stringer Institute on research and best practices to prevent sudden deaths. The NCAA, on the other hand, has remained lethally antiquated. Unlike NFL players, collegians have “no voice, and no rights,” Casa pointed out. McNair was forced to run 10 sprints of 110 yards, until his body temperature was 106. It was a nonsensical workout that had zero football relevance and demonstrated nothing about his character except that he was willing to work himself into a coma for fear of punishment from an all-powerful authority figure. “It’s a totally unregulated environment,” Casa said.

University of Oklahoma trainer Scott Anderson has a term for this idiotic and outmoded brand of collegiate workout: “irrational intensity.”

Anderson wrote a 2017 academic paper entitled, “NCAA Football Off-Season Training: Unanswered Prayers,” that documents the stunning kill rate in the college game.

“Collegiate football’s dirty little secret is that we are killing our players — not in competition, almost never in practice, and rarely because of trauma — but primarily because of non-traumatic causes in the off-season alleged to performance enhance,” he wrote.

Anderson cites the example of a player who died from exertion-induced asthma, after being forced to run 2,160 yards of serial sprints in just 12 minutes, with a 1:1 work-to-rest ratio. You know what the work-to-rest ratio in an actual football game is? Somewhere between 1:8 and 1:10. Even in a hurry-up offense, it’s 1:4.

Coaches conduct these workouts for only one reason: because they have backward notions of man-making and are completely unread in the latest sports science. Mesozoic notions die hard..

You’d like to think this would be easy to stop, but as Jenkins notes, Durkin’s not exactly a lone wolf here.  If he stays in the job, I doubt it becomes much of an issue on the recruiting trail, even as he assures moms he’ll take care of their sons, because he’s far from alone out there.

Too bad the concept of a players union for student-athletes is anathema.

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62 responses to ““Drag his ass across the field!”

  1. DawgPhan

    A very clear example of union protections saving lives.

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    • Sides

      How is this a clear example of a union saving lives? The NFL is working with the Stringer Institute and there is no mention of the NFLPA being involved. Give the league some credit for actually being proactive on this issue. They figured it was cheaper to prevent heat deaths than continue to pay settlements.

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      • Derek

        Because its all about the money, amirite?

        What if there were a chart that said that the ratio of deaths and litigation costs to super bowl victories and licensing profits favored the riskier approach? That was the approach Ford took with the Pinto.

        Are there more important things than the bottom line?

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        • Sides

          The Ford Pinto? How old and out of touch are you? Do you use that law degree to help people or just enrich yourself? No one helping the less fortunate could spend this much time talking about politics and football on the internet.

          It wasn’t the union who spurred this change, it was the league office and their sponsors (with input from lawyers and accountants). Give credit where it is due or show something to prove me wrong.

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          • Derek

            Chili is discussing credit. I’m discussing the appropriate analytical approach to making a decision where lives are at stake. Is it a pure bean counting decision as you suggested or should there be even bigger considerations that transcend money and a cost/benefit analysis?

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            • Sides

              I wouldn’t ever expect an organization (a union, company, a nonprofit, etc) to make a decision that does not factor in a cost/benefit analysis or some other bean counting metric. This should include the risk of being sued if your product fails (I guess in this case unsafe working conditions). If an organization acts without bean counting measures then they likely will not be an organization very long.

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              • Derek

                That’s not what your first post said.

                There’s a difference between costs being a “factor” and they did it “because of” costs.

                I would say that many organizations that make the mistake of even factoring costs on matters of great import and it costs them plenty in things that aren’t money.

                Penn State and the Catholic Church are examples.

                I would argue that people and organizations should just focus on doing the right thing and try to avoid cost/benefit analyses unless its a matter without any moral concern. Cost/benefit analysis is fine in deciding whether or not to lease a new copier. Its not so great when you’re trying to decide whether hiding child rapists is worth it in terms of dollars and cents.

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  Economics is a universal science. It’s naive to suggest otherwise. College teams should certainly spend the $60k to help prevent deaths from heat exhaustion. Even if the cost were double or triple that, they should still do it. But what if the cost was $1 trillion? Should Maryland, or UGA, or any other team, be expected to mortgage everything to try to prevent something like that? Of course not. The cost is too high.

                  Fortunately, it appears that cost isn’t prohibitive on this issue. So the failure to act is due to other non-economic factors.

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                • Sides

                  It is because I wrote 3 lines off the top of my head in the comments of a message board. When you asked for more detail I provided it. I am sure some in the organization want to do whatever is possible no matter the cost and some only count the beans. That is why you want a diverse organization.

                  How many free billing hours do you give to clients that you know are innocent? How could you charge money to someone in this situation? You seem to hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself.

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                • Derek

                  You certainly have a basis for that belief you hold deep in your ass. Wash your hands.

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      • ChiliDawg

        Who do you think pushes the NFL to do things like that?

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        • Sides

          If you think the union is responsible for pushing this change then respond with some evidence to support your claim. I stated my position using a quote straight from the article presented to us by the moderator.

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          • This is also in that article:

            Unlike NFL players, collegians have “no voice, and no rights,” Casa pointed out.

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            • Sides

              Thank you for adding content to the discussion. I can’t read the Wapost article (who pays for newspaper content these days?) and your last large quote doesn’t have a link to it. I don’t know who Casa is nor can I read the context of that quote. Does it say the NFLPA was involved in this change? Or is it just spewing no right and no voice political talking points that we now avoid here?

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              • Casa is the CEO of the Stringer Institute.

                There is no direct mention of the NFLPA regarding the specifics, but I suspect the truth is contained in Casa’s comment, which is that because of the union, the NFL is more attuned to the issue.

                Whatever the bottom line may be here, clearly college football needs its collective ass kicked on this front.

                BTW, I pay for a WP subscription. 😉

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                • Sides

                  Using your example of Virginia and hearing the comments from Muschamp about how they manage heat, I truly believe most college programs handle it the right way. The ones that do not will probably see Maryland’s settlement and decide it is cheaper to put in proper protocols. This seems to be the pattern for change.

                  Cancel that subscription, there are plenty of places to get fake news for free.

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                • Trbodawg

                  I guess free “Fake News” is worth what one pays for it. 🙂

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                • Sides

                  That makes it a better deal than the post.

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                • Seriously, if you don’t read the Post, how would you know?

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                • Sides

                  I have read the WaPost. I am joking some about the fake news but since you are taking this thread political I will follow :).

                  Look at the current headlines. All information can be found on other sites for free. Cohen plea deal, Manafort trial, security clearances, 3D guns. There is nothing worth paying for. They do have their opinion articles that can’t be accessed for free. Here are the highlights: “Kneeling NFL players will help Republicans in November”, “Trump is less lucid than normal”, “No, Venezuela doesn’t prove anything about socialism”. I don’t see anything here worth reading.

                  I too am asking a serious question, Do you feel like you get your moneys worth? I don’t see anything there of value.

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                • I do. One example — Robert Costa, who used to report for National Review, is one of the best out there covering the Republican Party. Another — Radley Balko, who I’ve mentioned several times here, is fantastic on police power abuse.

                  There are other good reporters there.

                  Admittedly, I don’t place much value in the editorial staff, but that’s not why I subscribe.

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                • ChiliDawg

                  You realize most of the “free sites” you talk about getting the same news from are just paraphrasing the original content from the Post or the Times, right?

                  I’d rather pay the meager amount of money for a subscription to a quality publication and read their original content than have it filtered through a click-bait driven website that parses the pieces they think grab them the most eyes. It’s worth it, and it lets me support real journalism.

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                • ChiliDawg

                  And yes, I subscribe to the WaPo as well

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                • Sides

                  I just read Fratbros.com or whatever shitty website you write for. That was real journalism.

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    • Walt

      An English friend of mine tried to unionize UGA grad students back in the 90s. There was a state law against students forming a union. He contacted some unions such as the IBEW for assistance and was disillusioned by the fact that the first thing the the union reps asked was, “What monthly dues can they afford?”. So unless the law has changed, it’ll likely be an uphill battle to unionize college athletes in Georgia.

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  2. ChiliDawg

    She’s not wrong.

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  3. SCMass

    Interesting comparison: Brandon Adams was criticizing NFL practices for being a “complete mess” because of all the NFL players’ union-induced regulations. It was in the context of the Zamir White injury, and BA liking the intensity of UGA’s practices.

    Though to be fair to BA, he probably appreciates the difference between “we let our best players compete, even if it’s on special teams” and “we run 10 miles in 100 degree heat cuz TOUGHNESS.”

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    • Cojones

      A sports program talk fest mentioned that S.Car would beat UGA because UGA practices in an enclosed field that SC doesn’t have(?) and they would beat the Dawgs because they were used to the SC temp that will ramp up by game time. No mention that we are two-deep this year and can substitute regularly. Guess this means that SC will work out in that terrible heat until they stop dragging ass and then they will have that as a secret weapon vs the Dawgs.

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  4. It goes back to the reporting relationship between the S&C staff and the head coach and training of the S&C staff. This isn’t hard. Make offseason workouts especially outdoor under the supervision of a sports medicine professional outside of the head coach’s organization (even outside the athletic department). Deploy technology to monitor the participants. Train the S&C staff to look for danger signs and instruct them to step in when an S-A is at risk. Implement regular water and cooling breaks into the schedule. Across the board, change the mentality that discourages an S-A from pulling himself out of an exercise.

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  5. Gurkha Dawg

    She is 100% right. This is a pet peeve of mine. The US military learned this long ago. I remember training in 100 degree heat at Fort Sam Houston, TX in the 80’s. We were FORCED to drink large quantities of water every 30 minutes at the minimum. The captain watched us closely to make sure we were drinking. He said ” none of you dumb sons of bitches are going to die on my watch and get my ass in trouble.” That was 30 years ago. That captain was one tough bastard, but he actually cared about his men, unlike some of these college douchebags.

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    • Cojones

      My how times have changed. In the 60s, in June outside San Antonio, we were told to get a drink of water and then to turn your canteen upside down with arm upraised to show they were all empty and dripped slowly. Then we went on a forced march for 7 miles to a cow pen where a Lister Bag was set up using water from the small open cow puddle that had manure all around, but first you had to get some water from the puddle, place a water purification tablet inside , mix well and drink after 5 minutes. It tastes like straw smells.

      We were to teach Army Medics in the use and trust of water purification in the field.

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    • RangerRuss

      Gurkha, I was a young Company Commander during the mid ’80s in the South. Close monitoring of fluid intake led to a dramatic drop in heat casualties. You can bet your life that Captain was more concerned about your health than his ass.

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      • Gurkha Dawg

        Oh, absolutely he was concerned about our health. He would never admit it though.

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        • RangerRuss

          Of course not. You were all worthless,weak worms with no value other than the uniforms you wore that the yankee Army issued you. How they ever made soldiers out of slime lower than pond scum I’ll never know. Or at least that’s what i was told as a private in ’79.

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    • 69Dawg

      Heck I was in Combat Engineer training in 1970 and we got 10 minutes on the hour of rest and water and we got 7 hours of sleep at night. It was only April in Missouri. The thing that stopped it for the Army was not morality, it was the fact that they were killing recruits in training in the latter part of the 60’s. These were draftees and not volunteers for the most part and the congress was catching hell from the parents.

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      • Gurkha Dawg

        Right, people have known how to prevent heat casualties for decades. That’s why this death is so inexcusable.

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  6. Derek

    I would also note that the NFL seems to be able to get through games with 53 active players. 17 players less than a SEC travel squad.

    It seems to me that we need to get a panel of doctors together to establish:

    a) the outer limits of a safe fitness regime
    b) pre-clearance screening markers designed to ensure the regime the staff chooses can be safely participated in. Physical exams and tests.
    c) real time body measurements with alarms that go off at certain temps, heart rates or if the damn thing isn’t working properly.

    So if a coach wants “X” plan your OL need to be able to run a 7:00 minute mile for example.

    With all the money floating around college football it just seems that objective standards with appropriate screenings and backstops can be fairly easily established.

    It protects the players and the coaches and the programs.

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  7. Salty Dawg

    I’m glad Sally had the stones to say what needed to be said. That mindset has got to change. Maybe Mr and Mrs Jordan, in the future, could use their voice to make it happen. I hope so. A parent’s worse nightmare is outliving your child.

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  8. Just hoping Georgia has those body temp monitors.

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  9. Plus other precautions.

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  10. RangerRuss

    There’s a fine line between hard core and stupid. Training shouldn’t be left to amateurs,sadists and idiots.

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  11. We like the athletes tough but not dead or severely injured that it threatens their future.

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  12. Codie Alan

    Oh you Liberals and your Unions “saving the world” one student-athlete at a time.

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  13. 69Dawg

    Given what this says I’ll bet the death rate in high schools is as high as college or higher. They always seem to blame high school deaths on an undiscovered heart problem.

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    • Derek

      In fairness, at each level you go down, you’ve got far more players, less resources and fewer undetected health issues. It is not surprising that raw numbers of fatalities increase as you go from the pros to college to HS.

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    • ASEF

      The one level of the sport where a player has zero leverage is college. I think that’s a huge factor here.

      At last summer’s high school football practices, my son was weighed as he went into the locker room. He was not allowed out of the locker room after practice until he weighed what he did going in. Practice had mandatory water breaks, and players weren’t allowed back onto the field until they had been checked off getting their water.

      High schools are struggling to put together rosters. The supply and demand equation at that level really does put pressure on high school coaches to emphasize safety and a better experience. The kind of stunts Maryland’s coaching staff was pulling aren’t really possible in a high school. A coach would be lucky to have 22 payers come out for Year 2.

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  14. DSLDawg

    National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research (NCCSIR) @ UNC
    https://nccsir.unc.edu/

    Direct High school football deaths ’82-’16 133
    Indirect High school football deaths ’82-’16 233

    Direct College football deaths ’82-’16 13
    Indirect College football deaths ’82-’16 58

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  15. 83Dawg

    I coached youth soccer for 10 years, and my rule was always that, if the player felt tired, their ears were ringing, or they wanted a break they were to immediately step off the field, get some water, and just watch practice until they felt like jumping back in for a bit. This would in no way affect how much they played or what I thought of them.

    In fact, I would start the kids that wore down quickly, rest them after ten minutes, then put them back in to finish the half. I got a lot of effort out of my out-of-shape kids.

    It was just common sense. You can’t play right or learn anything in practice if you are gasping for air or your ears are ringing.

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  16. ASEF

    Iowa put players in the hospital with rabdo in January workouts. Michigan got popped for forcing players to practice beyond NCAA time limits. Illinois had a coach canned for abusing players and intimidating trainers.

    That’s your preface for what happened at Maryland. Nice to know the B1G is on top of this issue and helping institutions learn from each other’s experiences?

    The issue obviously is way bigger than a conference, but this is an area where I would I hope Sankey is encouraging collaboration among institutions and communicating a clear standard and expectation. If they haven’t made this sort of technology a membership requirement, they should. Every conference should.

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  17. Squatchdawg

    Not defending these folks at all. What happened is awful.

    But I would hesitate in comparing NFL stats to college for this reason.

    Everyone on the NFL has already shown they have the physical attributes to withstand hard and hot physical activity. Individuals with unknown physical impairments that prove to be dangerous in these conditions are probably noticed earlier and don’t make it to that level – and hopefully these conditions are noticed before it proves to be fatal.

    Again – not saying that there doesn’t need to be universal safety standards. Just saying those comparisons have problems.

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  18. 92 grad

    The UNION reference is seriously debatable. The true union concept, at its core, rubs raw against who we are as a nation. It is, in the grand scheme, the gut check that balances our capitalist idealism. I have a big problem with idealistic politics, and little problem with downtrodden, suppressed masses. Maybe this is the whole issue? Union controls costs my business maybe $75k/year because i can’t work in St. Louis, Chicago, and Pittsburgh. The OEM manufacturer I have exclusive contract with spends 200% premium to deliver their product in union controlled markets, and the project time is well over 200% surplus with union control. It’s a sore spot for several large industries that are trying to balance cost and union cost to forecast accurate budgets.

    Ok, I’m done. Organazitions that do bad things with kids need to be changed, period. I follow our program closely enough to know that our athletic staff gets accurate information on athlete wellness, down to the minute. Any athletic program that actively pushes the limits of human ability should do the same. If they don’t, they’ll pay. It’s just the way things work. I know where my kids will be allowed to go because I make it my business to know if they will be cared for. I know the pain of loss and I know they are feeling it, but gawd dang it, I’d have known what my kid was getting in to before I let them be coached by an archaic tyrant that thinks the movie STRIPES is how kids get turned into adults.

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  19. Will

    I need that hissing/screetching Ron Swanson meme for whenever someone talks about a legitimate use for unionization around Conservatives.

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