The “I hate Jamie Newman and I hate Quincy Avery for making me hate Jamie Newman” Invitational comment thread

Sweet Jesus, y’all are driving me crazy with this crap.  Obsess away in the comments and leave the rest of the threads in peace.

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122 responses to “The “I hate Jamie Newman and I hate Quincy Avery for making me hate Jamie Newman” Invitational comment thread

  1. mg4life0331

    I DON’T KNOW WE’RE YELLING ABOUT!

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  2. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

    I didn’t send you an email to have this as a topic, but I do think it’s hilarious that the underhanded street agent asshole Quincy Avery just cost Jamie Newman millions and millions of dollars, and he refuses to take responsibility for his terrible advice.

    This is the same underhanded street agent asshole who interjected himself into the Fields situation, too. In a just world, impressionable kids and their idiot parents would avoid him after what happened to Jamie Newman.

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  3. drunkenmonken

    I expected the Falcons to draft Newman. Given their history of bypassing Dawgs I thought that would be the ultimate irony.

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  4. David K

    And maybe get the Justin Fields hatred off your chest while you’re at it. Sick of hearing about both of them.

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    • Derek

      When you know so much about both of them, why keep it to yourself?

      Can anyone share the video of Fields and his longtime life partner Sasser celebrating his being selected by the bears?

      The truth about Newman is that what cost him wasn’t sitting out. It was not doing well in work outs and at the senior bowl. He either was never all that or he didn’t put in the work.

      There were at least three opt outs drafted in the first round. So opting out wasn’t the issue.

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      • Biggen

        Barring injury, him playing couldn’t have hurt his chances to be drafted. He went undrafted! That is like me entering the draft. He literally got drafted EXACTLY like I would have.

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  5. Does anyone know the real story about why Newman elected to opt out? No doubt it was a terrible decision by a young man educated at one of America’s finest institutions of higher learning, Wake Forest (don’t take that as bashing Wake – it is a great school). He created really no buzz at the Senior Bowl which was as close to a combine as there was. Unless Mathis was beating him out in camp, there was really no reason for him to leave and give up a season of learning with Monken unless an agent through Avery was whispering in his ear.

    Thanks for leaving us high and dry 2 weeks before the season’s start, Jamie. Avery, I hope a ton of your students decide to tell you I’m better off learning from my high school coach than I am with you.

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    • Biggen

      The real story? No, I doubt anyone but Jamie and his family knows the “real story”. But a betting man would say Avery gave him some really poor advice.

      My issue is he got two weeks into Fall camp and decided to quit. You want to “opt out”, then do it before practice begins so you aren’t leaving your coaches scrambling to cover your ass.

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    • tiredofidsearch

      I have “heard” that it was a combination of terrible advice and he got his girlfriemd pregnant.
      True ? No idea… (the pregnant girlfriend part. Terrible advice is a given).

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    • 123 Fake St

      I heard he went to rehab for pills once he found out he was having a kid.

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  6. Ran A

    Yeah… I noticed two trends that really bothered me over the weekend. Those that wanted to try and poke holes in Bama’s success in the draft this year and those that took absolute glee with Newman not getting drafted. Both struck me as weak and shallow. I know some of it is the culture of the day; but classless is classless and that’s the way both came across.

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  7. JoeDashDawg

    I was going to reply on the other thread talking about this, but I’ll drop it here instead.

    From the Senator: “Don’t understand the antipathy he’s being shown by UGA fans.”

    While I don’t feel any animosity towards the kid – I think I understand the reasoning behind those that do. The more cynical nature of some people drives them to A) not take him at his word that his opt out was bc of Covid and B) feel like he used our program to raise his stature, while then leaving the team screwed and without a starting QB at the alter.

    While we should take Newman at his word that he was worried about COVID in an unprecedented time, hindsight that the season was played and our QB’s struggled seems to be getting the better of some folks.

    Side note – Pissing off a guy like Quincy Avery – whatever your feelings about him – is probably a dumb move by our fanbase. Especially since my twitter feed indicates he’s a pretty sensitive person (Calling all UGA fans idiots for instance) Future recruits are far more likely to remember him standing next to Trey Lance at the draft than that he was involved with a former Wake Forest QB that opted out and went undrafted.

    I think former UGA great Terrance Edwards said it best
    “I need someone to explain something to me. Why do “some” fans take things so personally when it comes to the team they cheer for? I love my
    @GeorgiaFootball but nothing that happens to them as a team will affect my day negatively or positively. I yell at the tv and keep it moving”

    Well said sir.

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    • I’d love to see a Venn diagram of UGA fans dissing on Newman and UGA fans who proclaim that it’s what’s on the front of the jersey that matters.

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    • Derek

      To be angry you have to simultaneously believe that had he played that we do big things in 2020 and also that through seven rounds no nfl team noticed that potential. Its pretty incongruent.

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    • Sorry, but if it was the pandemic that drove the decision 2 weeks before the season, he still made a bad decision because he was likely a late round selection if he had gone to the NFL directly from Wake. Lance arguably was a first round pick before the season started. NDSU had their season moved to the spring, so it’s a no brainer that he opted out.

      As for Avery, this is the 2nd time he has screwed UGA. For a guy who lives and works in Atlanta, it’s not typically good business to alienate the people who live around you. He had to have been involved in the Fields situation with anOSU (a school Fields didn’t even consider out of high school).

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      • Re: Avery…..the problem there is that he doesn’t claim to care about the schools. He sells himself on helping the individuals. The schools aren’t his clients so to speak.

        And while screwed the pooch with Newman, he can still trade on Fields’ name does a while, and even more so if he succeeds in Chicago.

        The best thing to do is to largely ignore him and make the pitch to kids that UGA as more resources, more structure, more connections, more examples of success in doing right by their players than he does.

        Don’t fight with him, don’t get in bed with him, acknowledge he exists, but just go on minding your own business.

        Which is frankly exactly what I expect Kirby and Co. to do.

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      • JoeDashDawg

        The point is not that Lance was already a high draft pick, or that he opted out. He is just a filler for the argument that Avery works with very high profile quarterbacks. A HighSchool recruit is going to google QA and see him standing at the draft with a #3 pick – not a blog post of someone saying “QA Screwed Jaime Newman’s chances of being drafted with bad advice!”

        As for your second point I don’t really care about the past, my only concern would be he steer future guys away from UGA.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

          Maybe Kirby is making it a plan to steer clear of the kind of idiot kid and idiot parents who would trust this underhanded street agent asshole.

          Did you think of that possibility?

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          • No, because that’s not the way Kirby operates. You bring in good kids, which by all accounts both Fields and Newman were, and you coach them hard. You trust your culture and program.

            You’re not going to bat 1.000, but staying away from good, talented kids bc you don’t like who’s giving them advise is a great way to become Jim Harbaugh.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

              What does that have to do with anything I said? I said maybe moving forward Kirby’s plan is to avoid the kind of kid and parents who put their trust in this underhanded asshole street agent.

              Fool Kirby once, shame on you. Fool Kirby twice, shame on him. This is twice now that Avery has fucked Kirby over with a QB. Why in the hell would he go back to that well again?

              Avery isn’t involved with every single QB out there. So avoid the ones he involved himself with, and recruit the ones smart enough to stay away from him.

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              • It has everything to down with what you said. What has Kirby ever done that makes you think he’s going to shy away from recruiting the best possible players. You think that just bc the player has someone in his ear telling him he’s better than everyone is going to steer him away? Every freaking uncle in the world was/is already doing that.

                If Kirby backs off of a kid, it’s because of fit, or character, or grades, or whatever. I feel certain it won’t be because of who is personal coach is.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  Dude, if you think this is all Avery is doing you are deeply naive.

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                • If you think he’s going away, or that talented black QBs are going to stop working with him, you are the naive one. I don’t know about you, I’m pretty tired of watching Georgia high school QBs ball out for all our competitors. I’d rather keep them at home.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  The number of talented QBs, let alone the amount of talented black QBs, who work with Avery are less than the total number of talented QBs, let alone the number of talented black QBs.

                  You don’t have to kiss this asshole’s ring to get a talented QB.

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                • Of course not. But you don’t pass on the next first round, instate QB just bc he works with him too.

                  That’s my whole point. You run your program with considering Avery one way or the other. You’re recruiting the players, not him.

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              • bigjohnson1992

                Agreed. Thinking Kirby will lay the law down on any kid who’s even met this guy. Going forward, it’s end the relationship now with this clown or find another school to attend.

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    • drunkenmonken

      Terrance doesn’t live vicariously through the players like some fans do. Those fans are the same type that bitch at coaches for not playing or developing kids in little league. The same type of fans that boo a team walking to the locker room at the half for not lighting up the scoreboard against UK in a fucking monsoon. I was frustrated too and would have choked Coley out if I could have gotten to him. I wouldn’t boo the players though. They owe me nothing.

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  8. practicaldawg

    Jamie who?

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  9. Eh, we’ll probably never know. If reports that Newman went completely AWOL last spring with no notice, no contact, no nothing, thus leading Kirby to seek out JT, then I think it’s fair to say his head just wasn’t in it.

    I also doubt he knew what he was getting into with regards to the pressure cooker of UGA practices. Throw in no time with Monken except via Zoom, and it’s all just a weird situation.

    Ultimately, Fromm made a bad decision, then Newman made a bad decision, then the coaches made a bad decision with Mathis (tbf, they recognized it immediately and course corrected in record time).

    It was just a messy deal.

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  10. Greg

    He’s DEAD 2 me….

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  11. 86bone

    He QUIT our Team, what more needs to be said?

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    • It looks that way and maybe (probably?) that’s the case. But it was so sudden and so weird and on the heels of whatever happened last spring with him disappearing for a week that I’m going to hold judgement on this one. If he couldn’t handled the competition, that’s one thing. If he needs help in some other way, that’s another. And since I don’t know, I’m just gonna stay clear.

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    • RangerRuss

      Piss on a quitter.

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      • Excellent philosophy. I know that why I’m planning on staying with my current employer for the rest of my career, bc quitters suck or something.

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        • RangerRuss

          There’s a difference and you know it, gatriguy.

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          • The difference being that I’m allowed to have agency and he isn’t?

            Look, I think the timing was shitty, but my point is we have absolutely zero clue what was going on with him at the time. Zero. Maybe he truly didn’t like Athens or wasn’t feeling Kirby and dipped. Maybe an agent got in his ear, fronted him some money and he dipped. Maybe he was in a desperate situation and needed money and help right away and leaving made the most sense.

            All of those are equally as probable to me, and sense I don’t know, I’m not going to shit on the kid. Actions have consequences, and he is certainly paying for his. That’s enough for me right now, especially since I have a feeling that some more is about to leak out.

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            • Biggen

              Ohh what leak is this?

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            • RangerRuss

              Possibly your tolerance for quitters is higher than mine. Every quitter I ever talked to had somehow justified letting his buddies down. Usually he was just weak minded. Occasionally the excoriation of a quitter is a terrible mistake from a failure to communicate. For instance the Jump into Panama when one Sergeant thought he heard another say, “I quit” and began to pummel the guy and then unhook him from the static line. The reality was he said, “I’m hit” from AA fire. That’s why he took the ass beating so meekly.
              The point being some cultures have a low tolerance for quitters as that individual jeopardizes the group and their goals. Whatever excuse Newman had for quitting doesn’t change the fact that he fucked his buddies. You can go on and make excuses for him if you’d like. But I won’t. I won’t kick him while he’s down either. I will say again, piss on Newman. The quitter.

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              • A) college football isn’t the military, and
                B) people quit jobs every day for a better opportunity. Coaches leave all the time and no one calls them quitters. Andrew Luck retired literally hours before a game.

                I’m not making excuses for anyone, in fact I specifically said he’s suffering the consequences of his actions. But you don’t have the first fucking clue as to what was going on at the time and the reason as to why he made the decision he did. And playing Tommy Tough Guy about a kid who already obtained a degree from another institution who chose to make a decision which he has to live with the consequences of doesn’t make you sound hard or rugged.

                It makes you sound like a dick with an a full opinion despite having less than half the facts.

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                • Btw, our current QB quit on USC. Should we piss on him too?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  As discussed in a different blog post, if you can’t understand the difference in quitting on a team in the middle of Fall Practice two weeks before the first game and in losing your job due to injury through no fault of your own and then leaving to be given a chance to compete for the starting job (USC named Slovis as their 2020 starter, no competition), then I have nothing for you.

                  That analogy is crap. No one denigrates Franks for leaving Florida or Hurts for leaving Bama. It’s hilarious how some people always ignore inconvenient context when trying to buck up a bad argument.

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                • Last time you pulled on my chain I had to beat you in the head with a map of the city of Atlanta until you finally admitted you were wrong.

                  Sure you want to go down that road again?

                  I’ve said the timing sucked. I said he has to live with the consequences of his actions. Not sure what else you want.

                  You, nor anyone else for that matter, don’t know the details behind why he split. They might be quite dark for all we know. So enjoying his misfortune is low class.

                  He’s paying the price, no need to gloat.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  So if you were right then, that means you’re right here? GTFO. That’s not how the transitive property works. 😂🤣😂

                  I say again: If you can’t tell the difference on quitting your team while in the middle of Fall Practice two weeks before the first game and in leaving a team so you have the ability to compete, that’s a you problem, not a rest of us problem.

                  Sorry buddy, but your analogy remains garbage regardless of any other time you may have been right in your life.

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                • I quit a job once the morning I was supposed to start because I got a better offer the night before.

                  If that makes me garbage them so be it. You let me know the next time you turn down a raise, ok?

                  Done here.

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                • RangerRuss

                  Thanks Corch. I’m through with this triguy. He’s either looking to argue or he truly doesn’t understand the dynamics of group cohesion. His reading comprehension certainly has much to be desired as my anecdote explained that sometimes we don’t have all the facts when we act.
                  Also I ain’t playing T Toughguy and I am a dick. Damn sure not a pussy.

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                • bigjohnson1992

                  Football and the military are more alike than there are different.

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  12. jdawg108

    I feel bad for him. Really bad. He was given some horrible advice along with, as I understand, a difficult family situation with Covid. To be undrafted is abysmal given what he was projected to do in 2020. This couldn’t have gone worse for him.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Agree. I have zero antipathy toward Newman.

      Problem is, he had a red carpet laid out for him at UGA, along with an OC who has a very good rep with QBs. Not to mention walking out on the free graduate education.

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  13. classiccitycanine

    #FTMF (applies to Newman and Avery)

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  14. Granthams Replacement

    Decisions have consequences. Don’t worry about Quincy, the latest QB at UGA worked with Ron. He emphasizes leadership and character as much as mechanics.

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  15. ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

    I saw some tape of Quincy Avery giving QB lessons and have to say I wasn’t impressed. I suspect Avery’s schooling had a lot to do with Newman’s performance drop off. Why anyone with true talent at the QB position would let Avery anywhere near them is beyond stupid.

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  16. spur21

    This thread and the resulting comments make me LOL. Newman made a decision that didn’t work to his benefit – happens to just about everybody at some point in life.

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  17. debbybalcer

    I hate that people wish ill on a person that they don’t really know. Covid was unknown and a real threat and I will take Jamie at his word that was his reason for opting out. I hope he ands with a team as an undrafted free agent.

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  18. Castleberry

    Someone explain the benefit of trashing this man. I hope he does great. His timing was bad and it appears that hurt him more financially than any of us. Why would you do anything but wish him the best and take the high road here?

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    • Exactly. Kirby took the high road and was classy. Everyone else should be too.

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    • Why should I hope he does great? He never took a snap as the QB at the University of Georgia. I’m not a Wake Forest fan. I have zero connection to him. All I know is that he left his team hanging out to dry 2 weeks before the opening of the season when he was supposed to be the starting QB.

      I don’t want him to get hurt or anything like that, but I’m not hoping for him to become a Hall of Famer either.

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  19. Hogbody Spradlin

    Jamie Newman isn’t just six two. He’s six feet two and seven eighths!

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  20. beatarmy92

    I have no idea who Quincy Avery is, and I have no desire to find out. Jamie Newman is ancient history.

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  21. originaluglydawg

    Maybe JN can play Canadian.
    I don’t have an opinion about him one way or the other, except to say that I don’t believe his heart was really into playing football after graduating from WF.
    He’s got a good education. Better than mine, and I’m happy enough with my blessings.
    Most people have real jobs and get by just fine.

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  22. atempleton76gmailcom

    Move on …Jamie Newman got signed as an Undrafted free agent. The young man will get his chance to fulfill his NFL dream. Best of luck to him. Would have loved to see what he could have done between the hedges. Very strange year with several players opting out – cant blame any of them as no one knew if the season was going to be cancelled at the time and chaos ruled. My issue is if you commit, you commit.

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  23. PTC DAWG

    Sweating Jamie and his draft status is way beyond my pay grade. Some people have too much to do.

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  24. ugafidelis

    This is funny. After seeing your reply to Godawg in Losing the Plot, I was literally going to sarcastically comment “I hate Jamie Newman!” on whatever your next post was.

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  25. stoopnagle

    I want to thank Jamie Newman for opting out and allowing us to have clarity on our quarterback situation as well as a lot of quality game reps for our starter going into 2021.

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  26. Morris Day

    I just wonder if, in football circles where they obviously have more inside info than we do, there’s more to the story and that led to him going undrafted? Just seems odd that NFL teams would pass on a reportedly talented QB these days. The whole Newman situation was/is just weird.

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  27. ASEF

    I LOVE Jamie Newman. LOVE HIM.

    Why? Huge data point against the “these high-end college guys should just sit out a year and prep for the draft” morons. Especially QBs. They need the reps and experience and game tape. Period.

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    • It depends on the position. For guaranteed first round WRs or DEs, it still is an argument that has a lot of merit.

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      • Let’s see it in a non-pandemic season. I would love to see what happens to the first guy who decided to jump into the deep end of that pool. I imagine the coaches won’t be very kind to the guys who decide to go down that path.

        No matter what we think the scouts and NFL player personnel guys put a lot of stock in what coaches say.

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        • If Jadaveon had said later to his junior year and went and worked out and played golf in Scottsdale for a year, a grand total of 0 teams would have cared in the slightest.

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          • A little difference between a guy who would have been considered as the #1 overall selection after his sophomore year and these guys who opted out in a pandemic year … I just don’t see the coaches telling a scout what a great team guy some of these guys are in a pandemic year.

            Frankly, with Clowney, there were warning bells going off with how he played his junior year. I know he made a couple of business decisions with Todd Gurley in that 2013 Georgia game.

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            • Yeah, my bad, I should have clarified. I don’t thing the opting out for their 3rd year thing is prudent for most guys with hopes for the league. I agree with you, for most of them, the extra year on tape is more valuable.

              My point was that I still thing it’s a compelling argument for 20 (that feels right, not sure of the number) or so guys a year that stand to lose a lot more than they can gain in that year.

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              • I don’t think that number is 20. I don’t even think that number is 5 in a year. If you’re going to consider opting out for a n entire year in a non-pandemic year, you better be a generational type of talent. Trevor Lawrence probably could have. There wasn’t another player in the first round who wouldn’t have had their draft status negatively impacted by the decision not to play … yes, that includes Ja’Marr Chase (who I don’t believe is a Julio Jones/AJ Green type of player).

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  28. mddawg

    “I hate you! I hate you! I don’t even know you and I hate you! I hope all the bad things in life happen to you and nobody else but you!”

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