All this recruiting vs. development crap misses a big point — sure, it’s nice to win a “which team had more players drafted” debate, but ultimately, that’s not what they’re paying Mullen and Smart the big bucks for.
This is.
I’ll take a wins gap over a draft pick gap every day of the week and twice on Saturdays.
How does Michigan have so many draft picks and such an underachieving product on the field? It’s hard to believe Khaki Pants isn’t on the nation’s hottest seat entering 2021.
As for Dopey, he’s Mr. 8-4.
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Hairball has been ranked #1 here lately: https://www.coacheshotseat.com/
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Hairball … love that.
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The Reagan quotes are very appropriate. Thank you for that.
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If you didn’t know enough about college football, bashing it strictly on win % verses draft picks, you could argue that Clemson and Oklahoma over achieved, while Michigan and Florida under-achieved. What does Clemson and Oklahoma have in common? Quarterbacks. Get the right QB or QB’S in and it can cure a lot of ills. Trask saved Mullen. Dabo isn’t near as successful, if it is not for two Georgia QB’S that he recruited in. In fact, I would argue that without those two QB’S – there is no Natty at Clemson during his tenure. You, of course, have to all most of the rest of the pieces, starting at the LOS, but you can cover a lot of holes with the right QB. Watch how different the Gators O-Line looks this year without Trask getting it out of his hands so quickly (and accurately).
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What does Clemson and Oklahoma have in common? A laughable conference schedule
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At least OU has to play against teams that you know are going to score a time of points, so losing in a shootout is always a possibility. Clemson’s ACC schedule is absurdly soft and allows them to play themselves into form every year.
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They can’t seem to beat mighty Kansas State.
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Add Texas, USC, Auburn, A&M, FSU and Oregon – that is your Super NCAA league.
Back to the list of 10, no amount of playoff expansion is going to significantly change it
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As the team at the top all the lists shows, recruiting and development aren’t in opposition or in tension; in fact, harmonizing the two into a whole is how you get to the top….
This is such a myopic topic, fodder only for hot taek artists to try and generate ratings and clicks….
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Saban isn’t the best game day coach. Some of the losses to Auburn were directly the result of poor decisions from the sidelines. He told the Alabama people he wasn’t the best coach, but no one would outwork him in recruiting and preparation. That’s exactly what he has built – the best prepared group of Jimmies and Joes in the game.
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That’s the Process. Diligence beats shiftless talent most of the time. My hope is that somewhere in that maniac head Dawg the Get-back Guy is holding by the belt is a latent genius. Kirby sure works hard enough.
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The more I watch college football the more I’m convinced that 90% of what wins or loses a game occurs before the ball is ever kicked off: assembling a staff, talent identification, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, player development, strength and conditioning, game prep and installation, oh and did I mention recruiting? Nobody does a better job at those things than saban which more than compensates for saban not being the best play caller or in game strategist.
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Absolutely … I go back to the 2004 LSU game in Sanford and the national championship game with Clemson (the Lawrence one). When he ran up against a QB who was dropping dimes on his defense, he made no effective in-game adjustments. Of course, he did make the QB change in the 2018 championship game (I don’t count the 2019 SECCG because Tua got hurt).
He wins games by what he does the remaining 350 or so days of the year.
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Maybe I’m in the minority, but I don’t give a damn how many players for UGA (or anyone for that matter) get drafted. Not watching/caring about the NFL is probably one of my smarter decisions…
It’s wins in CFB that I care about.
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I agree about the wins, but I do like to see DGDs get paid back for all of their hard work.
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That’s the only reason I watch the draft. I don’t watch the Sunday product.
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Same here.
Pro sports just seem a step down from college for my entertainment and enjoyment.
Even watching Herschel as a pro was anti-climatic.
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The draft has a direct impact on recruiting. Kids want to see that the school they choose is putting players into the league.
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Exactly, when you recruit at the top level, it is very important.
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So, do you root for Stafford, Chubb, Gurley, Pollack, Ben Watson, etc to have success? I certainly want all the DGD to have success and represent UGA in a positive light.
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I hope they have success but I dont follow them nor do I really care. I have more importing things to worry about than athletes making millions of dollars a year to play a game when teachers/police/fire fighters are all criminally underpaid.
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Hey Miami, trade your slot here with Clemson for its wins?
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I like how Jamie Newman’s decision to sit out the 2020 season to maintain his draft status worked out for him: https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/eagles-udfa-jamie-newman-draft-20210502.html
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Are we going to bash Jamie Newman in every comment thread? Geez, folks. Let it go.
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Can we bash his personal QB coach for the great job he did instead of Coach Monken preparing Newman for the draft? Asking for a friend.
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Sure. I just laid out the red carpet for you.
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We’re #6 on the list and the only team that has to go through 1, 3, and 5 just to make a playoff game.
And you wonder why OU, tOSU, and Clemson are always in the playoffs?
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I don’t think anyone is wondering that.
I do wonder how we could lose to South Carolina at home in 2019, though.
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Turnovers
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Saban is the GOAT and riding high now. I do think he probably does a better job than Kirby at development, but I also think there’s a little confirmation bias going on as well with the NFL. “Alabama is the best team, therefore their players must be the best, therefore I must draft those players.”
Kirby has the recruiting down, and he’s getting better as a game day coach and at developing talent. We’re very close to breaking through and when we do, we’ll win multiple championships. When that happens, I’ll bet his players will start getting drafted higher.
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Clempson with that win % sure has nothing to do with their conference.
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On the other hand it sure makes the gap between us and Bama more apparent.
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This is my feeling as well.
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38% difference in draft-able players is significant. Certainly enough difference to explain the difficulty we (and others) have had in beating them.
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Clemson, Oklahoma, and Ohio State have a much easier path to the playoffs but 79% against the SEC is pretty damn good.
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