Why don’t we check in and see how social media is taking in Georgia’s boffo new NIL legislation. I’m sure there are a lot of favorable hot takes…
Yeah, that’s going well. Naturally, there are tons of Georgia fans out there trying to correct the record, but even they’re having to concede the law is stupidly drafted — and for no good reason, since every major school in the state has already walked away from the pooling arrangement.
And those are just the first day hot takes. Imagine what the sales job will be like for Georgia coaches after Nick Saban sadly explains the facts of life to recruits trying to compare Alabama’s NIL law with Georgia’s. Somehow, I don’t think “It’s not fair for just the skill players to take all the money, otherwise why is somebody going to block for you?” is gonna make everything better.
If they ever create an annual award for horseshit purity in the name of Georgia football (call it the Georgia Way Award, natch), I know who I’ll nominate for the first recipient.
Get The Picture 
Senator, you might want to have your delete key warmed up for this comment thread. 😉
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Useless half measures (well, 1/4 measures) are our specialty.
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From the people who brought you a 40 yard IPF.
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It was a 25-yard banquet hall, and no, that was the geniuses at B-M, not the geniuses in the legislature.
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I meant Georgia writ large.
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You think they would sign a law like that without the 100% approval of BM?
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So we offer 75% more $.
What will ultimately matter is what players on the current team are saying they make to the current recruits and how. The best players will go to the places with the largest and easiest answers.
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Isn’t the thought that generally, democrats want to pull the old socialist redistribution of wealth, and then here come Georgia Republicans with this? Doesn’t it fly in the face of the republican party being the party of small government?
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That shit has never been true. Just marketing.
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The players’ political contribution checks had not arrived by the time of passage. Green is the ideology that matters.
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I’m trying to figure out who put it in and why it was put in anyway.
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I thought Cowsert put his hand up on it, no?
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There’s a lesson to be learned here about trying to split the baby.
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Gee, you might almost think that all the ace reporters intentionally missed the opt out provisions in an attempt to stir drama. They wouldn’t do that, would they?
PS I know, I know, perception is reality, but I’m still dismayed that distortion is the order of the day. Sigh.
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Hog, Nick Saban won’t have to distort jack shit. All he has to do is point to the provision in the bill and note UGA could change its approach any time it chooses, unlike the case in his state.
Sure, Kirby will get the chance to rebut, but to repeat myself, when you’re explaining, you’re losing.
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I’m not disagreeing with you. I was ragging on reporters.
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There’s also no such thing as bad publicity… Other than UT-Knoxville.
Your verified list of twitter whiners includes a Tennessee guy, an agent, and a village idiot that used to play in the NFL. You can sort out which is which. The unverified guys might as well live in their mom’s basement for all we know. It’s just echo chamber stuff that goes away after a few days.
Nick can say yeah they could and Kirby can just point a map of metro Atlanta and the 7th ranked national media market and tell Nick to show them his. That’s real and that scares the competition. Bama will be fine of course because of their brand but the state a small market with no growth.
Controversy draws clicks, it works for you as well, not that I think that’s what you’re about as you understand what the law really says and just pointing out that this has stirred a probably unnecessary dustup for comment.
UGA isn’t going to commit suicide by taking money from athletes when nobody else is and everybody will figure that out soon enough. That’s the reality when it kicks in July 1st. I don’t know why they put the clause in there but its a state law and not every school has a P5 football team. Some of the small schools might like to pool money and spread it around and we’re probably not talking about a lot in those cases regardless. Is it an unnecessary distraction, yes, but if the law was written in Arkansas or Mississippi it wouldn’t generate clicks. This being UGA and the potential market visibility of the state is what makes it click worthy.
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Thanks, TRD…at last, a voice of reason and clarity.
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Senator, can’t the school put it in the contract with the players in such a way that it can’t be changed while the kid is on scholarship? Seems to me that the school can write it up so that it can’t be changed.
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The contract isn’t with an individual player, it’s essentially a team-wide policy. In essence, by declaring it’s not adopting a pool arrangement, UGA is doing what you suggest, at least as far as it can. The school can’t override the statute.
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You’re surprised that the media would willfully distort the truth?
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No, but still disappointed.
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These people who are commenting on this are being totally disingenuous with their comments and likely have other agendas as well. UGA officials said they were not going to use the pooling provision at the signing ceremony conducted in their own recruiting lounge.
I think this thing was dumb. The bill that came out of the House addressed the issue at hand. It should have flown through the Senate and been signed quickly. I imagine it will be repealed as early as the special session for redistricting. At worst, it will be repealed in probably the first bill proposed in next year’s session.
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I bet every recruit and athlete regardless of sport has already received a communication from the AA that this provision is not being implemented at UGA.
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And how many recruits and athletes in other states with NIL laws have received similar communications from their schools?
Like it or not, UGA is at a disadvantage. Leave it to the Georgia legislature to fuck up what should be a simple triumph.
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I don’t disagree that the legislature put something in the bill that’s a terrible provision. I imagine Kirby already is in Kemp’s ear to say the provision needs to go.
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If you’re explaining, you’re losing. As our host said, all the really needed to do was mirror another state’s law.
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I agree
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The most measured take I saw is that even though it seems stupid now, it’s there to help the law overcome possible Title IX challenges because as everyone knows the men’s football and basketball players will overwhelmingly make more money from NIL than any female athlete anywhere not playing for Uconn.
So when the first female softball player sues because she’s not making the same from NIL rights as the quarterback, and that is going to happen eventually, having this stipulation could make Georgia’s law look smart in hindsight.
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Corch, that’s bass-ackwards. Title IX doesn’t apply to third-party payments. The provision inserts the school into the funding process, which brings Title IX into play, which is reflected in the language in the statute. It’s a completely unnecessary own goal.
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Interesting.
Given the current climate, you don’t think a lawsuit would be made to bring Title IX into all this NIL stuff even if it’s not now? In the name of equity?
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Nope.
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You have more faith than I do. Once it becomes clear who can make money off their NIL and who can’t, if it isn’t already, there will be calls and lawsuits from the predictable corners to enact redistribution in the name of equity.
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Uh hunh. You’re playing lawyer here, so explain how you can sue the school — and remember, that’s the entity governed by Title IX — over payment made by an outside party.
By the way, since you’re playing lawyer here, I assume you’re aware of the cases that say equal opportunity isn’t the same thing as equal spending. How are you getting around that?
And one more thing — have you not noticed how female athletes are expected to do well monetizing their NIL on social media?
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I think you mean the subjectively attractive female athletes. Where does that leave the subjectively unattractive ones?
You’re the actual lawyer here, so you’re telling me that no one anywhere in this country who isn’t making as much off their NIL as the star QB or the hot gymnast with an OnlyFans isn’t going to challenge any of these laws in this current climate in the name of equity?
You have more faith than I do.
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There is no “equity” law corch. Doesn’t exist.
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That’s what I’ve been saying Senator! So the pooling arrangement is a woke attempt to redistribute wealth from privileged hot female volleyball players to underprivileged minority football players. Who knew Republicans were so woke?
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No. I have actually read Title IX of the Act and the regulations. It applies to the University’s actions, not Coca-Cola’s or Sketchers’s or any other private company.
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Didn’t Pepsi sue Coke because Coke sold more and it wasn’t fair?
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Boom lawyered.
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Disclaimer: I haven’t read the whole bill, and possibly wouldn’t know the answer to this even if I had.
How is UGA going to know how much money the students make off of NIL? If a player is from Hawkinsville, and while they’re home for a holiday their favorite BBQ place offers them $500 cash for a signed picture/jersey/whatever to hang inside, would they required to report that?
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They’re going to want to know for recruiting the next kid so why does it need to be in the law?
BM will be adorned with former players tax returns.
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Update: After thinking about this, is the state of Georgia going to notify the schools based on the student’s income tax return?
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Players are going to have to report their arrangements to the school.
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Or?
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Likely in violation of the law.
Ain’t nobody gonna risk jail, fines, probation, etc., for this.
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Yeah I can see them putting a kid in jail for an undisclosed NLI payment. Totally.
More like a request to submit a corrected form.
What’s the incentive NOT to disclose? Whats the incentive to keep any of it secret?
Kirby wants the info for recruiting and the kid doesn’t care.
One interesting thing will be whether the disclosure forms are public or not. And/or whether the payors real identities will be hidden through 12 off shore paper entities and holding companies.
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Twitter sucks, fixed it for you.
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You mean that opening Pandora’s Box is already having unintended consequences? You don’t say.
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Thishere.
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The pooling arrangement is shockingly stupid and should be repealed tomorrow. But racist and sexist? That’s even more shockingly stupid. Except for a few lefty commenters, who wants to look at a bunch of dudes on social media? I’ll be following the smoking hot female volleyball ball player. Actually, I don’t “follow” anybody, but you get my point.
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gurkha, I hear you, but how do you spin the concept of taking money away from the (largely minority) football and basketball players in order to give it to the, say, members of the women’s soccer team?
Coincidence? Sure, you can try that, but the optics suck.
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In all seriousness, I think much of the social media generated money will be based on looks and sex appeal. Is that fair? I don’t know, but that’s the way the world works.
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Social media is shallow? You don’t say. 😉
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Its almost like social media reflects the taste of its users or something.
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Of course, but the algorithms are ready and make everything worse.
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A lot of the female social media influencers aren’t that because of male football fans following them.
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Indeed.
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Did anyone really think this state legislature could craft a complex piece of legislation? All you have do is look at any example of bills concerning education, health, voting or taxation to realize the stupidity gene is strong in these guys.
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This isn’t really that complex. All they had to do was copy another state’s bill.
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Right. And they came up with this bill anyway.
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Bc they’re dumb.
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Copying bills in the following states doesn’t instill much confidence in me with maybe the exception of NM. “While the number of states that have either introduced legislation or passed formal NIL laws grows at a rapid pace, Georgia has now joined Florida, Alabama, New Mexico and Mississippi by enacting a name, image and likeness law with a July 1, 2021 effective date. ”
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Well at least someone was able to tie racism into it. I was so worried it was going to get overlooked.
/eyeroll
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In America, historically, 3/5ths of the time race doesn’t get overlooked. Might as well get used to it.
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3/5ths–like it
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The emphasis is on recruiting, but the portal awaits for existing players who only need a gentle nudge to leave for greener pastures.
Looks like Josh Brooks attended the Greg Mediocrity school of fine print reading. One would think somebody out of all the people who had a say or comment on this would’ve spoken up before it was done.
Only silver lining in this is how Florida’s pols pushed their NIL bill back a year to give our idiot legislators/gov some cover.
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This is classic Georgia General Assembly. Bunch of fuck-ups.
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Thus it was, thus it is, thus it will be.
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Gump got it right – “Stupid is as stupid does”.
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Somewhere at the Capitol is a sign – maybe even in Latin – that translates roughly to “The Purpose of legislation is to fix shit that isn’t broken.”
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There outta be a law….against that.
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It was literally a one horse parade and they fucked it up.
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Well, at some point they are going to have to negotiate NIL as a team, for example video games.
At that point in time, the schools will likely be distributing the money from a joint venture with the players.
If the gals don’t get a similar cut, then I think Title IX becomes an issue.
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Why would the money flow through the school?
Wouldn’t the players have a trustee fir their ea sports $?
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I should think that EAS would want to have UGA on their games, not just a generic team with a guy named JT Daniels or George Pickens.
And so they are going to have to bargain for the rights for the UGA logo, color scheme, etc.
I have no crystal ball, but I imagine that they would rather handle this as a package deal, with the school as lead on this.
It would seem difficult to imagine individually bargaining with players unless they formed some sort of union for collective bargaining, which in itself is a little different than the pro model.
In the NFL, all teams are of equal value, and so it’s easy to just divvy up earnings and for a players union negotiated a portion that is guaranteed to be spent by teams on salary.
But in college, it’s a lot different. UGA, for instance, is worth more than let’s say Wyoming. And George Pickens likeness might be worth more than D-Rob. So how do players individually bargain, but collectively? A lot of professional leagues basically say that a percentage of revenue has to be spent on players, but those salaries vary in contract negotiations with a salary cap governing the total expenses. But how will GP demand more of a share of Georgia revenue than D-Rob? And if they try to bargain individually, how can GP negotiate without the approval of UGA.
And it really gets interesting once the players start demanding a portion of television revenue, where you start adding a lot of extra zeros. Right now, conference negotiate contracts, but what happens when an opponent from another conference wants the same television revenue share for their players in a non-conference game.
These questions are easier in a homogenous environment like the NFL, but college is gonna be a whole lot different.
It’s not gonna be as easy as advocates believe and the courts are going to be heavily involved in college football for decades to come.
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That could be. But that’s for the future.
For one thing, it’ll require some sort of players association.
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GA state legislature making Quincy Avery look smart. Damn, fellas. That’s a feat right up there with NASA putting men on the moon.
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FFS, I’ll say it again, why does it have to be so hard to be from GA, DAMMOT.
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