Boy, that didn’t take long.
So, does Saban give Taylor a mulligan now? And how long before the false reporting to law enforcement charge gets buried?
Kabuki theater, with a badge and court.
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UPDATE: Yeah, this is real cut and dried.
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Was her neck bruised or not? Was their damage to her apartment or not? That seems like something the officers that took the story would want to document. If there was evidence that something happened, then the original story was true. If there wasn’t evidence or a witness, then why the hell did they proceed with an arrest warrant?
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It doesn’t matter. This is all about giving Saban and the program cover for a dumb decision.
Infallibility enabling, for the win.
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Any tracks left as to who bailed her out after she was charged? What woman can get abused and then volunteer for a crime arrest to stop charges? She’s either getting bad advice or a lotta money and promises of probation with record erasure. What about his trial in Athens? Prolonged until after he has played for Bama after “reinstatement”? Wouldn’t think that the long arm of Saban’s power reaches here, but then again, barristers from differing schools of allegiance live in differing states.
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Exactly. I would like too know how much she got to change her story.
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Lying to be lying-in to retract lying? Whoa! Methinks she has stretched it too far.
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You mean, “to drop her Chargers”?
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‘Infallibility enabling’ to the point of arrest? That’s straight up conspiracy theory.
I’m going with this situation as yet another example of kids in their early twenties being melodramatic, clinically self-absorbed, and mistake prone to the point of malady.
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Showing a cop the marks on your neck and hole in your bathroom door isn’t “melodramatic.”
If you don’t think someone got to her, I’ve got some land to sell you.
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If it was the girlfriend from here this is not surprising at all. If you are in a long term relationship with an abuser you feel remorse for causing him trouble. I had a friend whose husband abused her over and over and she kept forgiving him believing his story that he would change. They were a white collar couple. I hope someone can help her see that she is hurting herself and she needs to get far away from him before she ends up dead.
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Any idea if she is the same girlfriend from Athens… that would be my guess.
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If they’re competency is anything like that of the ACCPD, they almost certainty didn’t do any investigation or police work. I hate the ACCPD – moronic assholes.
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Just because they arrest for “emerging from an alley” or not giving full name identification isn’t a reason to call them…uh…hmmm…maybe you’re correct.
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Had a client that was attacked by a woman passenger. His shirt was ripped, glasses bent, and face bleeding. Was picked up on side of road after he abandoned his vehicle. Asked to be taken to sherrif’s office. Hours later the deputies bring in the gal and she’s bruised and scratched and clothes are torn.
The guy who gave him a ride had noticed the gal as he drove by and she was on the side of the road w/o any injuries and clothes just fine.
Turns out she deliberately threw herself down an embankment.
Just sayin’. Damaged property and bruises or not – what do the witnesses have to allow?
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By Gawd this made Nick look bad. The police are scrambling to make it right with the most powerful man in Alabama. Old George Wallace would be awe struck by Nick’s power.
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Sure the hole in the wall could be old, but you do not need to bring in CSI to determine if her neck has signs of very recent violence.
I would love to see Saban bring him back for the sheer entertainment value that would follow.
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I’m kinda with you on this sticky wicket. This story alone is enough to raise the media hackles when someone tries to subvert their verbal judgements on the air.
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If you found Saban in a position that would make Sandusky blush, I wouldn’t be surprised and say “I’d told you he’s a scum bag!” However, this “cover up” idea makes no sense. The story isn’t getting any better for Nick and Taylor isn’t getting back on the team. In fact the drama just keeps it in the papers. That is the opposite of what Saban wants.
This is Mrs. Ray Rice redux. She wants to be Taylor’s NFL bride and I’m sure he’s convinced her that all will be well if she’ll help him clean this up. Its sick and its twisted, but I’d be willing to bet its between the two of them. The risk of approaching her with a payoff is too high. If smart people were behind this she’d never be booked in jail. For better or worse, if you are careful and smart and the victim wants to help, these things can go away easily and quietly.
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I tend to agree with this theory. I don’t think anyone associated with Bama would pay her to do this – they just want it to be 6 months from now and out of sight/mind.
Battered Woman syndrom might be taking it a bit too far – so I like that term “Mrs. Ray Rice Redux” “Mrs. Ray Rice syndrome” or some other version of that.
This is just bad all around for the subject matter – Of course if Taylor is innocent, then this young woman should face the consequences. I hate allowing the woman beater apologists to gain ammo though – victims shouldn’t ever have to have their motives questioned, and situations like this one muddy the waters.
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I’ve seen some victims that needed their motives questioned. I’ve seen DV set ups where the victim injured themselves, seriously, to make an accusation. People are friggin’ crazy. There are no one size fits all. Saying that we have to believe the victim is dangerous. Look at the Duke lacrosse case. Look at Rolling Stone story about Virginia. These things are unfortunate and are far from rare. Every accusation needs to stand on its own merit or lack thereof.
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I understand your willingness to be skeptical about any DV accusation. I so suggest this. I bet any Tuscaloosa law enforcement officer is going to make sure he sees evidence before he arrests a Crimson Tide football player. I suspect if it was merely her word against his there would not have been an arrest.
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“I’ve seen some victims that needed their motives questioned”
Interesting given your comments toward me yesterday.
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Jeepers, your stressing. Perhaps I can help?
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You are just digging a deeper hole here. Yesterday we all assumed she was beaten and you said she was equally culpable for her own beating as Saban was. That comment hasn’t gotten any smarter today.
Concerns about false allegations and concerns about victim blaming are not that same concerns like an apple is not the same fruit as an orange.
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You’re right unfortunately – “ever” was much too strong a word to use there – and every time one of those high profile cases (Treon Harris comes to mind) where the female lied I just shake my head.
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Alabama is now executing the FSU playbook. Who didn’t see this coming?
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Yeah. FSU went in cahoots with the victim. I remember that one now. The old “get the victim to cooperate with us” ploy. Worked with Winston for sure. I had nearly almost forgot that this is EXACTLY how that saga played out. They arrested Winston and then she saved him. Thanks Joe for that accurate historical reference.
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Put down the kool-aid.
If you don’t think she is being pressured in that community, you are only kidding yourself.
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You said Alabama was using the “FSU playbook”. I fail to see the connection. The similarities begin and end with football and a criminal accusation. From there the similarities end and diverge such that there are no recognizable connections. It was a dumb comment. You made it. Own it.
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One of these days that young man will run into someone that won’t let him slide by. Hope he can learn from it.
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In related UA/Tuscaloosa news:
–Bama is now claiming the national championship for 2014, due to their investigation that found that Ohio State used an illegal equipment manager for the game.
–No evidence of any wrongdoing in the Albert Means case. That 200k was actually Monopoly money, and thus not meant to be taken seriously
–Taylor’s accuser suffered an unfortunate hallucinogenic episode, and thus will not be ultimately charged with any crime. We wish her well in her recovery
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Have any of you considered that maybe she was lying the first time and now has decided to tell the truth after she saw all the sh!tstorm her lie created? I was skeptical about the assault charge when she made it. Taylor knew not to rough up anyone and that he would get the boot from the team if he did. Nobody is THAT stupid. People, including girlfriends, get pissed off and lie all the time to get the object of their wrath into trouble–then think better of it later after they have cooled off. Maybe that is what happened here. She just didn’t realize she was getting herself in dutch by doing so.
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Correct; and lying about the bandages on her knuckles because of the destruction of property charges she faced with the hole in the bathroom door doesn’t help her either.
By the way, Taylor is THAT stupid. Twice (that we know about).
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The hole in the bathroom door was just a case of lousy apartment maintenance. She should have called the office instead of the cops. It probably would be fixed by now. 🙂
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Nobody is THAT stupid…. Yes they are! That is why the prisons are so full. Not saying that he may not have been falsely accused, but it is also just as likely that he did it. He doesn’t have the best track record to use as a defense.
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As I posted above, I will bet that the Tuscaloosa cop was very careful to evaluate corroborating evidence before he dared arrest a Crimson Tide football player, especially an arrest that could embarrass Saban and the team.
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Careful, Mayor. If Taylor didn’t do it then part of our moral high horse goes away. People don’t like it when we imply adult women actually be treated like adults.
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“noboby is THAT stupid”
yes. yes they are.
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But guys who cannot control their temper go off regardless of the consequences. I am not saying he is guilty or innocent, that is for others to decide, but there is definitely a smell in the air…. (it could just be drifting up from Auburn, ya never know…)
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Can you imagine how the Atlanta media would react to this? People would be seeing Pulitzer Prizes dancing in their heads with the investigation that would be done to expose UGA in this. In Alabama, the media starts talking about whether he’s going to reinstated or not.
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Exactly, with the yabos we have for reporters in Atlanta they would make UGA out to be 100X worse than SMU was back in the day – shut us down !
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You can’t make up the physical evidence. It was either there or it wasn’t…and it was there according to the police report.
If I was a betting man, this sounds a lot more like the victim changing her story by trying to put Taylor in a position to be on a team again. They are in a relationship and she may have been counting on him being a provider…that’s a lot of pressure for a young woman (see Ray Rice and his wife in the aftermath). It’s just an awful thing…even in a divorce you have alimony and child support…in an abusive situation, you’re sending him to jail where there will be zero support. Regardless of the outcome, this will not have a life-changing impact on Nick or Alabama football…it will on the victim and Taylor.
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Probably an agent. Taylor is NFL talented. He’s not going back to Bama, but if she recants he can land at another D1 program playing football in the fall. If she doesn’t, he is done.
I seriously doubt Bama goes back down a road with him. They will give him his release and move on.
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Now wouldn’t it be interesting if Auburn picked him up?
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Not even Auburn would touch this one, I’d guess. Or, I’d hope. This isn’t from the FSU playbook; it’s from Greg Hardy’s. Something tells me that Taylor’s issues just cost him a lot of millions and maybe even a whole career. Too bad, but this wasn’t exactly his first rodeo.
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“Is he going to help us as a pass rusher? There’s no question. I think that we all know that because he’s a talented player he’s going to be afforded more opportunities in the National Football League. At the same time, even if he wasn’t, I still think Ray Rice and Greg Hardy deserve another chance, just because I feel like everybody has their skeletons in their closet. If everything was shown over everyone’s head, no one would be given a second chance. That’s part of the way I think we think.”
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2015/04/tony-romo-greg-hardy-ray-rice-deserve-second-chances-everybody-has-skeletons-in-their-closet.html/
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You’re talking about the school that had Nick Fairley on its team, not to mention paid $180K semi-openly to get Cam Newton then stonewalled the SEC and NCAA about it. Of course Auburn would sign him–and their fans would then brag about it.
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And to think just yesterday people got their panties in a bunch at my suggestion that the woman couldn’t make good choices. Turns out she was lying all along. But oh, we NEVER question the accuser do we, folks 😉
Before anyone goes there, the conspiracy theories are pretty whack. I doubt this benefits Bama football in any way, although the prudent thing to do would be for Saban to pull a “Godly” Richt move and allow Taylor to remain on the team, like we did with Sanders Commings.
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Dude. All any of us really know is what we have read in the two articles publised on ths site, unless you were somehow there or have done an extensive personal investigation. The first one says she reported an incident that occurred at 6 pm and the report says she had minor injuries to her neck and they found a hole punched into a bedroom closet door. I was not there, you were not there, unless of course you are Jonathan Taylor. Presumably the minor injuries were visible to the cops. So, this evidence is consisent with someone hiding in a closet in fear of someone, coming out and getting choked in some fashion, or getting choked or hurt in some way and fleeing for safety into a closet, that is then punched by the offender. Or, it could be she faked the injuries, or some self inflicted the neck injury. Did she punch in the door? None of us know. We are speculating based on what we are actually reading. The new article says she recanted. Your conclusion without more, is she was lying all along. That may be true. It also may be true that once she saw the consequences he faced, she felt sorry for him. He apologized. And so she decides not to prosecute and says I made it up. This version is kind of classis DV victim stuff. I don’t understand why some women put up with being hit and sticking around. I have discussed this with the women in my life and advised there should never be a second time. Hitting a woman is never justified.
With all due respect, I don’t think this is a moral high horse.
Finally, it is clear you do not want CMR as your coach. We all get it. That’s ok. It just gets tiresome when you make some comment about that when it has nothing to do with the topic. And i suspect if the DAWGS have a bad year, you may get your wish and he gets fired. Our draw from the SEC West has us facing what most pundits think are the two best teams in the SEC. So you may get your wish. However, I assume you want what is best for UGA, the University and the football team, and that you want us to win. Hopefully, if we have a great year, go to the SEC, win it, go to the playoff, and win the darn thing, you will be happy like the rest of us. Sometimes I think the CMR haters want us to lose.
Again, I do not mean this to be a personal attack. Can we all just get along? Reduce the name calling and rude comments? Agree to diagree agreeably ? [is that a word?}
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I don’t have a problem with Richt as our coach, I have a problem with folks who pretend he’s some God who is morally superior to every other coach in existence. Sure, he’s better than Meyer and Paterno and maybe a few others, but after that it’s pretty much a wash. I was annoyed that people are blaming Saban for signing Taylor from JUCO when Richt did pretty much the exact same thing by leaving Sanders Commings on the team after being charged with DV (his charges were later dropped, by the way).
Saban wasn’t wrong in this situation and he shouldn’t be sorry for signing Taylor, only sorry that it ended the way that it did.
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I guess that survey of coaches on ‘which coach would you want your son to play for’ pretty much summed up your ‘wash’ theory, huh?
Is this really just Penn Wagers?
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Technically he is not speculating. As you point out only two people were there and know what happened. She now says I lied he did not do it. For us to question her statement that she lied is the speculation. Taking her at her word that she lied yesterday requires zero speculation.
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There’s nothing wrong with the idea of educating / warning women about the dangers of abusive men or whatever you claimed you meant to say yesterday or the idea that a woman (or man) could possibly make bad choices that put themselves in bad situations. What people don’t like (and what incensed me about your statement having seen domestic abuse firsthand with my mother) is when you claim that a victim of domestic abuse deserves anything greater than 0% blame which you did when you trotted out the words “should have known better” to begin digging your hole. Again – the rule of thumb when discussing domestic abuse is that NOBODY (man or woman) deserves whatever happened to them regardless of the quality of their decision making beforehand.
Put another way – I know that statistically there is a greater chance of drunk drivers being on the road after dark. I drive to the store at 10PM one night for whatever reason and a drunk driver slams into me. Per your theory, I’m partially at fault because I, and using YOUR own words, “should have known better”.
I’m trying not to personally attack because I crossed that line yesterday, but can you seriously not understand why people may have been unhappy with your stance yesterday? Nobody mischaracterized your comments. You said those exact words to start the day and never stepped back from them, but insisted on continuing to dig a deeper hole. Instead of stepping back and admitting you were wrong, you doubled down and called us all idiots / trolls / lacking reading comprehension because our perspective differs from yours.
This is the last I’ll say on it, but just know that to some of us domestic abuse is a deeply personal issue and simply will not stand for anybody claiming that the victim deserves any percentage of blame.
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Only Bama can come up with such a sad and pathetic April fools story………….
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You guys are harsh and not considering the victim here. Look at the bad press, threats, accusations, distractions, embarrassment, etc. If this were a family member of yours, you’d feel damn sorry…for Uncle Nick.
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We sure have had fun with it. This pic of SOD with Saban must of made Vince’s ass pucker.
And this is priceless…
and this…
…ya know a lot people think I’m from Greece. 😉
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I just hope this kid is stopped before he ends up killing some girl.
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I guess Harvey Updyke’s hanging around her dog’s food bowl and the word that Phyllis from Mugla was getting a band of her followers to picket her house was too much to take. 😉
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Doubling down on victim blaming with recanted story victory lap.
h/t
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I’m truly flattered with your obsession. Do you think of me when you’re lying in bed at night, too, or only when you’re surfing the net?
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You can please some of the people some of the time…
Sanders Coming:
1.and, according to the quoted police report, he hit(slap- open handed) her once, while being partially restrained by other people. (And we don’t know the circumstances that provoked him even into that response.)
2. It is a misdemeanor, not a felony.
3.There were no visible injuries apparent to the alleged victim and she declined medical attention, police said.
Jonathan Taylor:
1.Taylor currently has two cases pending against him in the Athens-Clarke County court system, and neither one has been adjudicated, according to his attorney.One is a felony case of aggravated assault/family violence.
2.The other is a misdemeanor case of theft by deception.
3.He was arrested again this past Saturday night in Tuscaloosa. The charges this time are domestic violence/third degree assault and domestic violence/third degree criminal mischief.
Now we all know how quick CMR is to pull the trigger on a bad seed. Does anyone really believe Sanders Comming got preferential treatment and was allowed to remain on the team and Taylor got the shaft?
Time to quote some statutory language
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Facts are a pesky thing.
As someone said the other day, would CMR have taken a player dismissed from Alabama with a pending felony?
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“And we don’t know the circumstances that provoked him even into that response.”
1) The fact that you said this specifically about Commings and not also Taylor just screams bias
2) Victim blaming is ok if the alleged perpetrator is a UGA player, I guess?
Open handed slap versus choking…. not much difference.
Facts can be a pesky thing, though 😉
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What really is the difference between a felony assault and a misdemeanor assault? It seems a pointless distinction doesn’t it? That must be some new meaningless terminology that some dumbass came up with to distinguish between two otherwise completely indistinguishable things.
If you keep this up you may set the record for number of stupid things posted in a week. When you set the record you get your very own blog like this guy: https://ugathomasbrown.wordpress.com/
I’m pulling for ya. Good luck.
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No, they are not at all the same. I once held the wrists of an 60-ish woman who was trying to hit me with her cell phone during a girlfriend’s ridiculously ugly family dispute with her former in-laws and ex-husband.
At one point I squeezed them hard to convince her to stop fighting me and partly – no joke – to give her some strength in this ugly situation, like you’d squeeze somebody’s hand too hard during a funeral. I think it actually relaxed her.
A few days later I got a summons for a misdemeanor assault charge. She later admitted she’d been trying to hit me, after I’d spent $500 on a lawyer. I am 100% certain she never got charged for lying to the cops.
ps – I’m glad I didn’t marry the girl at the center of that mess. 😉
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$500? You got off cheaply. Either that or it was a long time ago.
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Sorry, I just re-read your post.
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You are too stupid to be reasoned with. Go troll some place else. Tell you what I’ll let you slap me if you will let me choke you. You are too stupid to know the difference.
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LOL. It KILLS you that your beloved Richt did the same thing Saban did, doesn’t it?
I can’t think of a better way for you to prove your point than to request getting pimp slapped though. You’re ok with it being done to women so it’s clearly no big deal, amirite? 😉
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Sanders Coming was physically attacked by his girlfriend with lots of witnesses. He slapped her back. He should not have done this. There is a big difference between a slap, a punch and attempted strangulation.
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Do you have actual proof or do you just feel like victim blaming is acceptable when the alleged perpetrator plays football for us and not somebody else?
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It was reported when it happened.
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http://m.ajc.com/news/sports/college/uga-investigates-commings-marshall-sanders-to-jc-b/nQRFX/
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Good god little debby. “Lots of witnesses” = two of his teammates? Yeah, no bias on your part here at all huh 😉
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The Athens police department believed those witnesses and she did not have marks on her. There were other witnesses besides his teammates.
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“There were other witnesses besides his teammates.”
If that were true I think one of the two links you gave would’ve said so. Someone’s trying wayyyyy to hard to believe what she wants to believe as opposed to what the facts support 😉
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http://m.chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2012-09-11/richt-ugas-commings-has-paid-his-debt-after-january-arrest#gsc.tab=0
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This just begs the obvious rhetorical question: why do you find Richt’s actions in response to the Commings incident more relevant than Richt’s actions in response to Taylor’s assault?
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Normally on April 1 when I read something this stupid I assume it’s a joke. However, having read some of you posts on this subject over the last couple of days, you don’t get the benefit of that doubt. Really, do you always post while inebriated?
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Keep it up… I’m not nearly as patient with fools as Bluto.
Just sayin’
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I am not surprised at all domestic violence victims often have remorse about pressing charges that is why some states have laws that officers press charges not the victims. This is a young girl in love with a violent man. I hope she gets help before he permanently injures her or kills her.
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Well said. This is very sad.
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Very Gainesville and Tallahassee Esqe;
This Is..,
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that article says homicide is investigating…
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Forget it Jake, it’s Tuscaloosa.
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/slow clap
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