So, let’s recap the most recent follies of Butts-Mehre’s Men of Genius, otherwise known as the selling of the season ticket price increase. It started, as usual, with a little misdirection from our esteemed athletic director.
With the success we have experienced, we will incur increases in compensation to maintain that level of success. We plan to make substantial adjustments to the compensation of our coaching staff, which will necessitate these ticket increases.
As it turned out, that was a relatively mild effort. Had he stopped there, well… you’ll see.
Round two saw a new excuse trotted out (“Football’s really our only source of revenue, significant revenue,” McGarity told the media afterward. “In order to maintain your other 20 sports at the level [now]; it’s not my intent to go to the other programs and have cuts. It’s not fair. It’s not the Georgia model. Because we treat all sports equitably. So, this was the way to fully fund those other sports at the same level we have.”), together with the revelation that the proposal was presented in haste to the Athletic Board. That was combined with a fact sheet prepared by the athletic department and presented to the Board intended to sell the case that the underlying purpose of the increase was to redress a pricing structure at Georgia that was sadly out of line with its conference peers (“UGA athletic officials also were at pains to point out that the football program’s average ticket price of $50 last year ranked 12th out of 14 schools in the SEC.”) It’s not hard to understand what McGarity was thinking there; it’s just hard to understand why he felt the need to elaborate so.
That all of this was presented in a rush should perhaps have been a tell that all was not as it appeared to be on the surface, but nobody raised any questions. Nobody except a Georgia alumna with a background in statistics, that is.
Rebecca Phillips, aka StatDawg82, made her introduction at the blog with this substantial dive into the pricing data that should have accompanied McGarity’s fact sheet but didn’t. As I wrote then, ultimately what she demonstrated with her work was this:
It’s hard to say if the misinformation we’ve received is the result of sloppiness, ignorance or a deliberate fudging of the facts. What’s not hard to say is that Butts-Mehre didn’t much care either way about accuracy. Which really translates into not caring about being straight with the bulk of the fan base.
That’s what chaps my derrière here. Had they merely come out with some variation of “we’re doing this because we can” as justification, I’d have grumbled some, but in the end, recognized it’s a sign of the times we live in, stroked the check to ‘da Man and moved on. Instead, we’re fed this “it’s not us, it’s you” garbage. McGarity can’t bring himself to own fully what he’s doing here. (Not that accountability has ever been Butts-Mehre’s strong suit.) This isn’t how an athletic administration should treat a devoted fan base.
That post got a fair amount of attention, culminating in a Seth Emerson piece that contained two items of significance. First of all, his own research backed up the accuracy of hers. Second, Greg McGarity chose to respond to her work on the record, publicly. That proved to be less than convincing:
McGarity, in a phone interview Tuesday, said it wasn’t discussed at the board meeting “because we don’t have the information” on what funding levels are at every school.
“Misleading?” McGarity said. “We never presented that this was an all-in. Because the data is so hard. There are 13 different ways to do that, and it’s very difficult to gather that information.”
In other words, because he didn’t make a complete effort, nobody should have taken his presentation literally. I’m guessing the Board would have preferred to know that before they voted. As I posted in response to Seth’s article, there was more to unpack from McGarity’s interview, but the gist of it all was that he’d managed once again to violate the First Rule of Holes. What should have been defended sparsely — some variation of “we raised ticket prices because we could” might not have given us the warm and fuzzies, but at least it would have had the virtue of being accurate — became messy because the athletic director wound up misleading the Board and the fan base and lamely trying to defend that in the press.
We’re not done here yet, though.
While I might have been a little surprised that McGarity reacted publicly to a fan’s argument, I wasn’t at all surprised by Phillips’ reaction to McGarity’s comments about her work.
She went back and did more research. Then she asked that I post it here at the blog.
After Mr. McGarity and UGA responded to my research in the recent Seth Emerson article, I took another look at the data and dug further to see if their facts checked out. In many cases, they didn’t.
Mr. McGarity’s response to my original email said:
“We were presenting the only real data that was consistent across the board, which was the actual lowest ticket price.” And so, the data in my original analysis used the lowest ticket price (plus lowest donation) to get the final “in-the-gate price”.
Mr. McGarity’s rebuttal to my original analysis included this:
“Our intent was not to adhere to the lowest ticket price at each stadium, but rather one that best represented the majority of the seats in their respective venues and was the most comparable to our seating options.” This was a direct contradiction to the previous statement about using “the actual lowest ticket price.” They went on to say that in some cases the lowest priced sections did not include very many seats.
And so, to allow Mr. McGarity all benefit of the doubt, I completed an additional analysis, this time trying to adhere to the UGAAA’s “rules” for selecting price values (though it’s hard to hit a moving target). I used the same ticket prices that UGA has chosen as a “fair assessment”. Looking to their chart, all of the ticket price values now match what I used. Then, I also included the required donation that corresponds to the ticket price (that the UGAAA used) in order to calculate the final “in-the-gate price” for each school.
Again, I’m giving Mr. McGarity every benefit of the doubt by including more donation tiers beyond the minimum so as to include more seats in the analysis. Even in giving that much ground, the narrative they are spinning STILL doesn’t hold up. In no academically honest report can you claim that Georgia is 12th out of 14 SEC schools in ticket prices.
A large portion of the UGAAA’s response included naming reasons why the ticket values that they chose to use were most closely aligned with what is available at Georgia. And so, I reran all calculations using the UGAAA’s chosen ticket price. And then added the corresponding donation.
Results are shown below, with detail on how each value was calculated.
School |
Season ticket price |
Donation amount |
Per ticket price |
Notes on how values were selected |
Auburn |
$475 |
$290.00 |
$109.29 |
The UGAAA noted that ‘Auburn has a minimum contribution level of $100, but it is open for a limited amount of seats.’ To combat this complaint, I chose to include the next two donation tiers, up to $290, in order to include even more seats. |
Georgia |
$300 |
$300.00 |
$100.00 |
Because I moved up in donation level for most other schools, I used the $300 donation, which gets into the lower bowl. I elected not to use the $375 level. Using $300 instead of $375 would put Georgia at #2 rather than #1, but I did not want to have any chance of falsely inflating this value. |
Tennessee |
$420 |
$250.00 |
$95.71 |
Many seats fall in the $0 donation sections, but I chose to include the next two donation tiers, up to $250, in order to include even more seats. |
LSU |
$425 |
$125.00 |
$91.67 |
Within the $425 sections, the lowest donation is $125. |
Florida |
$380 |
$250.00 |
$90.00 |
The $150 donation area is in the lower bowl and includes a large number of seats. But, since UGAAA says that donation level only covers “portions of 10 sections” of the stadium, I chose to include the next two donation tiers, up to $250, in order to include even more seats. |
Alabama |
$445 |
$160.00 |
$86.43 |
In case the UGAAA feels that the $60 or $110 sections don’t include enough seats, I used the next highest donation tier of $160. |
Arkansas |
$360 |
$150.00 |
$85.00 |
The UGAAA mentioned that they used the $360 ticket price because it covers more seats in the lower bowl. I chose to include the next two donation tiers that apply in the lower bowl, up to $150, in order to include even more seats. |
Texas A&M |
$490 |
$30.00 |
$74.29 |
The lowest donation price, $30, applies to a large number of seats, and corresponds to the $490 price used by UGAAA. |
South Carolina |
$365 |
$137.50 |
$71.79 |
The $50 donation area includes a large number of seats. In addition to the $50 per seat, there is a “club” fee of $175 to order 2 tickets, or $87.50 per seat. |
Ole Miss |
$400 |
$50.00 |
$64.29 |
Even though there are a large number of lower bowl tickets available without a donation, I used the next highest level of $50. |
Missouri |
$379 |
$65.00 |
$63.43 |
Even though, there are many seats (including lower bowl options) at a $50 donation level, I used the next highest level of $65. |
Mississippi St |
$375 |
$55.00 |
$61.43 |
The UGA Athletic Association felt there were not enough $200 tickets, so I used their selected ticket price of $375. The lowest donation amount needed for the $375 seats is $55, and that gets into the lower bowl. |
Kentucky |
$310 |
$100.00 |
$58.57 |
Within the $310 ticket price level that the UGAAA selected, there are many seats at a $0 donation level. I chose to include the next donation tier of $100, in order to include even more seats, and get into the lower bowl. |
Vanderbilt |
$300 |
$0.00 |
$42.86 |
Although seats are available in the lower bowl for $170, I will go with the UGAAA reported price of $300, which can be purchased with a $0 donation. |
I am very aware that it is complex to fairly compare prices across 14 stadiums. Bottom line. Until a seat-by-seat analysis is conducted across 14 stadiums, stop publishing that Georgia is #12 of 14 in SEC ticket prices.
And, give the Board accurate, complete information before asking them to vote on a major decision.
In addition to the faulty narrative being presented by Mr. McGarity, my new analysis proved some ADDITIONAL errors in their “facts”.
1) They stated: “For instance, the lowest-priced season ticket at LSU was $360. However, that price is only available in two sections in the upper decks at Tiger Stadium. The rest of the stadium offers season tickets at $425, which was the number cited in our research. It did not make sense to make two upper-deck sections in a stadium that seats more than 102,000 fans as the benchmark for our research.”
Today, I contacted the LSU ticket office. There are actually 21 sections where the $360 price with $0 donation is available. Nevertheless, I used the $425 amount for my new calculation to match the value they used.
2) They stated: “Auburn has a minimum contribution level of $100, but it is open for a limited amount of seats.’”
But, the UGAAA has repeatedly challenged my assertion that mandatory donations should be counted as part of season ticket prices. How then can they then use this minimum contribution as part of their argument?
And some things worth noting:
– The UGAAA reported that Florida has already approved donation increases for next year. True. Though they neglected to mention that Florida has simultaneously announced some donation decreases. Florida states that “Approximately 37 percent of the seat contributions are going down or staying at the same contribution level.” (It is painful to think I might trust information put out by Florida more than Georgia.)
– I would like to note that my original chart listed USC’s ticket price at $415 while UGA’s chart showed the price at $365. I learned today that this is because the $415 quoted price includes the $50 per seat donation! In addition to the $50 per seat donation, there is another $87.50 per seat donation. Hence a difference from how it was listed before, but the per-ticket price remains the same.
– My original analysis did not use the Pocket Pass at Kentucky, as I too felt like it was not a comparable ticket option.
Yes, there is a lot to unpack there. Just so you don’t lose sight of what this discussion is really about, let me repeat the money part of her response:
I am very aware that it is complex to fairly compare prices across 14 stadiums. Bottom line. Until a seat-by-seat analysis is conducted across 14 stadiums, stop publishing that Georgia is #12 of 14 in SEC ticket prices.
And, give the Board accurate, complete information before asking them to vote on a major decision.
In other words, Greg, if you’re not going to put in the work to show otherwise, don’t make assertions you can’t back up. Don’t make the Athletic Board an accomplice to the consequences of a shoddy sales pitch, either.
Math is hard. Being straight with the Board and the fan base shouldn’t be harder. That’s the way Butts-Mehre rolls, unfortunately.
I was tempted to title this post The Last Word, for obviously snarky reasons, but there’s a part of me that wonders if Greg McGarity is sensitive enough to fashion yet another response to her. You’d think not, as Rebecca Phillips has shown she’s got some Erk Russell in her, but some people can’t help but rise to take the bait when their commitment to transparency is questioned. Stay tuned for further developments.